From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 9 20:38:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA7416A407 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FF243CB5 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:36:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dthomas53@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id x37so1444952nfc for ; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:38:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aU5Dix+/rQcEDoNsejt3jzlu+Mv1KS8jvbmUYErVn4q3IPBF/zGpRG9gclHtApUGgZFqtNUJqyg2AV5YM9xAQ8BRjfm/ruBiKtcEiD0qDBtsOI8sIukGr+pn1bWhWthRaKCnbBANXV602M1UZrhimpA6qsBGj+mOKUyIQz6QUkQ= Received: by 10.78.204.1 with SMTP id b1mr405146hug.1165696683768; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.156.2 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:38:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 15:38:03 -0500 From: "David Stanford" To: davidn@datalinktech.com.au In-Reply-To: <457A3B9B.5000304@datalinktech.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4579EB08.8080704@intersonic.se> <457A3B9B.5000304@datalinktech.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Am I an Idiot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 20:38:10 -0000 It has been some years since running -current on any critical production > server, but I have never had any qualms about doing so on a system I use > constantly. In some cases that includes what are essentially > "production" systems in that they support use for development and > pre-deployment internal to an organisation or project and while not > serving a critical role they are still heavily relied upon (and some of > those systems also run applications built from HEAD branch of their > respective repositories). > > However there is always sufficient expertise around to handle the bumps > and inconveniences associated with -current including working around > long-standing problems on -current that occasionally do occur (inability > to run threaded apps compiled in 6.x, for example, where upgrade via > rebuild is not an option - a problem which I've never personally had to > address since 100% of what I run on a BSD box is open source). > > Scanning this list regularly is almost a requirement when running > -current, although src/UPDATING will get you ~50% of what you need to > know. > > This is a somewhat OT question, but what needs to be done to turn off the on-by-default debugging features when running -CURRENT? Just curious... -David -- [root@fbsd ~]# fortune Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion.