From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 2 20:29:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE967CE for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B948FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 20:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j13so2206445lah.13 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:29:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=7JU1ZYHvcFTKmZL4+aH9Zq2h767rEptx6qm61u8Tipg=; b=fWF+mQ6gEBEQOenHBnYgk6XU/+jPsA0QicFZa6Y74PN9gYD1NUejyxM/o6eTxdhvGF 8Wv7TB/p4zlY1HUSUaGeADS6m+TyFjx9xXFuBePxAQ+W12Cz7lmNOgfIaQiRGVvvCd4i QdHCbU/8fOFxipHiR1cwoWnBSoCtPbPJWsgJ0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=7JU1ZYHvcFTKmZL4+aH9Zq2h767rEptx6qm61u8Tipg=; b=Ew3sQYfMcRw4oeaVoleXHPGdAuwyAYGJxGYr7Srz3aPs3V4vSfdEdkKBM83BghIme1 vxqwh7YD97akMwAEhkimR1OvA5jay8sy/NYRdcDeYBiEya+woZd0fykxNJWPb/YgURv4 xGRrfYHsMIxY+qSixC+oJk0E08iRFMGf8qUcXlKV3yjX2tC+z8kU+6rn5Ol6/oIkTyvY g862GxX6C5kb/6/EgxiLxUbFq4ktO7zc59QFR5oT4iYorSDn1cEH/4Zm0+AQshmhFJfe LCAwanBpoL7HasRYUVr0wqke+DOt7qVmskzlKFGmJfQIjVmRLU3y2fN14ZCQ+CDIvTCQ +Nbg== Received: by 10.152.105.33 with SMTP id gj1mr7358068lab.49.1354480143499; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:29:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.154.168 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:28:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 15:28:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IdeaPad Y580 Laptop - 59359513 - Dawn Gray To: Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkhA2MLsrstXa+P3mAAZUSkHErI5mzUoz9Hh+fQyhdo0idpdtcnZX7HVw0trCOEWmfggl0z Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 20:29:05 -0000 On 2 December 2012 15:08, Kevin Oberman wrote: > The problem is that the nVidia chip used is a supported one, but it > lacks a frame buffer. Instead it uses the frame buffer on the Intel > graphics part of the CPU. On Windows, it also only uses the nVidia GPU > for some operations and the Intel for more basic ones where its > integration into the CPU will result in optimum performance. The > result is no support on anything but Windows for the nVidia.You can > find more on this at: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus/ So my only option is to use the integrated intel gfx? > The other big issue with the graphics is the lack of the ability to > switch back to console mode. Once X is started, you have no ability to > get a vty screen. This is especially annoying when something in the > graphics (probably the KMS) glitches and the display goes bad. the > only recovery is a re-boot. I keep hoping that console mode support > will be written at some point, but it has not happened to this point > and kib (who wrote the KMS code) has stated that he has no plans to > write it. Annoying, but this happens so rarely I am not very concerned at this time. > > Lenovo does white-list wireless cards and the cards on it all have > Lenovo specific PCI IDs. I bought a standard Intel 2200/BGN card and > it would not work. I had to buy a Levovo branded card at four times > the price. (My T520 came with a RealTek card.) As long as the intel wireless works, I am not very concerned about this. My other option for roughly the same price is ThinkPad T530 Processor: Intel Core i7-3520M Processor (4M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz) Display Type: 15.6" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit AntiGlare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready System Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000 Total Memory: 4 GB DDR3 - 1600MHz (1 DIMM) [ I'd likely need to upgrade this separately ] Pointing Device: UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader for Color Sensor, Smart Card Reader Camera: 720p HD Camera with Microphone Hard Drive: 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm Optical Device: DVD Recordable 8x Max, Dual Layer, Ultrabay Enhanced System Expansion Slots: Express Card Slot & 4-in-1 Card Reader & Smart Card Reader Battery: 6 Cell Li-Ion TWL 70+ Power Cord: 90W AC Adapter - US (2pin) Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna Integrated WiFi Wireless LAN Adapters: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN I really need to make my decision today. I need a development laptop to replace my desktop. Graphics don't need to be great but should be non-VESA -- Eitan Adler