From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 31 17:31:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1830F16A419 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F4513C44B for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JTX00AYKCOL5SI0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBVHVW6N042907; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:31:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:31:32 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <4dc0cfea0712310926m39291186rbb6924e200646c0c@mail.gmail.com> To: Victor Subervi Message-id: <47792774.2080902@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <4dc0cfea0712310757u7a970bb0rb2b29a931ad9767b@mail.gmail.com> <4dc0cfea0712310904m6ea9a530k7be838f6ab0aa302@mail.gmail.com> <477925E9.2010400@gmail.com> <4dc0cfea0712310926m39291186rbb6924e200646c0c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071228) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Low Level Language Suggestions: OT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:31:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Victor Subervi wrote: > Thanks. I'll drop him a line. Forgot to mention that as far I know it is straight Java also. As a side note to those who are knocking Java a few things need to be dismistified: I don't know if I am the exception but I know a fair number of people who have switched from c/c++ to Java (like me)... most of my carrer (and still do) is writting high performence code (largely via custom alogrithems instead of hand optimization) and have had zero issue with Java in this issue (except for the slow startup time for the jvm). Matter one of my projects is a Java-->native compiler which I eventually plan to base an OS around. > Victor > > On Dec 31, 2007 1:24 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman > wrote: > > Victor Subervi wrote: >>>> Thanks for the comments. It's a serious project. It appears >>>> that no one has yet done anything substantial in open source >>>> for translation, which is a $12 billion/yr industry. Go >>>> figure. Sounds like C++ is the way to go. Now, getting back >>>> on topic :) I know that one has to install all sorts of s/w >>>> and rebuild the kernel for working with Java. Is that true of >>>> C++ as well? Or is it like C, native to FBSD? > If your talking natural langs then Henry Pjiffers > (henry.pjiffers@gmail.com) has done a fair amount of work... even > though he might attempt to sell you on "enhanced" open-source ;-) > [I would also do this if I had done work in the translation area... > he is the other 1/3 of the licensing model I have mentioned a few > times on the lists] > >> >> - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHeSd0zIOMjAek4JIRAhgBAJ9mX2SUOPMBIKSse9/09BE8owV1QQCfTD6O IU5nLP56NiASTFp90dMxrco= =jQgV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----