From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Apr 17 21:56:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02749 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02744 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA15528 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:56:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA13104 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:51:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 21:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: News... In-Reply-To: <3356EB9E.75AF@rust.net> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Sysadmin wrote: > And who is this "we" who will "manage" Usenet? Pretty much the same people that manage it now. USENET is not utter chaos but is actually quite organized by many volunteers. Even the alt.* hierarchy is organized, just using different policies than the main hierarchies. > I don't have any problem with "cancelmoose" type enforcment of *limited* > content-neutral rules generally accepted by Usenet's user-owners. But I > do with anyone who thinks they have the right to prevent or inhibit its > use by others, or to modify it simply because that would make it easier > to carry. But I'm starting to get the impression that this thread's real > intent is to eliminate newsgroups which are unwanted and at the same > time not have to provide them to those getting newsfeeds, and prevent > others from carrying them as well, lest the customers vote with their > feet and go to the other providers. Fsck that idea. You don't want the > group, don't carry it, but if others do, don't grouse about their > choice. I was going to answer this but on second thought, you seem to firmly believe that the sound of black helicopters is getting near so I think I'll pass. Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-250-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com