From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Aug 19 12:15:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay.eunet.no (mail-relay.eunet.no [193.71.71.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BFD37B422; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from login-1.eunet.no (login-1.eunet.no [193.75.110.2]) by mail-relay.eunet.no (8.9.3/8.9.3/GN) with ESMTP id VAA55942; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbendiks@eunet.no) Received: from localhost (mbendiks@localhost) by login-1.eunet.no (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA43208; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mbendiks@eunet.no) X-Authentication-Warning: login-1.eunet.no: mbendiks owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:15:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Marius Bendiksen To: "Robert S. Sciuk" Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If FreeBSD migrates to additional architectures, how much of its > `goodness' will translate directly to other platforms?? Moreover, how > much future effort and talent will be diverted into porting efforts rather > than single platform perfection?? One must always trade off optimal > platform performance for the sake of portability! The issue here is also how many platforms, and what kind, you port to. Porting to the UltraSPARC is different from trying to backport to a 6502 with a ram extender. > I'd love FreeBSD on Sparc, and PA-RISC for that matter -- just not at the > expense of the single best Intel based OS I've yet to encounter!!! I am > happy with OpenBSD and NetBSD (thought neither one is on PA-RISC yet). Actually, I'd not mind regression on the Intel, if we gain more "high-end" platforms from it; such as UltraSPARC and Cray. > I look at the scalability efforts going on in the FreeBSD kernel as a case > in point, removing the GBL and threading and wonder just how much of that > will translate directly to other architectures?? Would this effort have SMPng work will, if I understand it correctly, benefit all architectures when committed to the tree. > started at all if the talented individuals working on it were busy porting > to platform X?? No doubt at the end of this project, FreeBSD on Intel Different individuals have different areas of competence. > should beat the living pants off of NT and Linux on the scability side of > the equation. And Linux would've won on portability. The Intel platform would seem to be dying, and we'd do well to port to better platforms. Our alpha code is ages cleaner than the x86 code, at least. Marius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message