From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 14 04:29:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A122F16A4CF for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 04:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relent.cedata.com (mail.cedata.com [65.167.180.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB83843D58 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gcirino@cirelle.com) Received: (qmail 12923 invoked from network); 14 May 2004 11:32:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO relent.cedata.com) (127.0.0.1) by relent.cedata.com with SMTP; 14 May 2004 11:32:39 -0000 X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (relent.cedata.com) Received: from [65.167.180.251] by relent.cedata.com (MessageWall 1.1.0) with SMTP; 14 May 2004 11:32:39 -0000 Message-ID: <024501c439a6$e348f420$fbb4a741@cedata.net> From: "Cirelle Enterprises" To: , References: <1886.213.112.193.11.1084410012.squirrel@mail.hackunite.net><3063.151.31.34.32.1084484911.squirrel@mail.redix.it> <20040514103447.GA5131@grummit.biaix.org> Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 07:30:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: Re: How do fix a good solution against spam.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 11:29:45 -0000 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Joan Picanyol" To: ; Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 6:34 AM Subject: Re: How do fix a good solution against spam.. | * roberto@redix.it [20040513 23:48]: | > 2) use Sender Policy Framework (see http://spf.pobox.com); |=20 | = http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/smtp-spf-is-harmful.html= |=20 | qvb | -- | pica Actually, SPF is not a spam tool. It was designed to protect against the Joe Job and only if everyone adopts it. Anything beyond this is a stretch. The rest of the complaints in the spf is harmful link are moot as a growing trend is to do away with certain portions of RFC's=20 such as bounces. We have put it in place to monitor the results, and contrary to the=20 article, AOL has not adopted the policy, all they have done is place a DNS text entry indicating anybody using an AOL address is ok with them. We do tag email that has an out and out SPF failure so our content filters can have their way with it. Regards Greg