From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 12:19:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CCD16A415 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan-mail.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A58A43D60 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from boris@brooknet.com.au) Received: from 180.205.233.220.exetel.com.au ([220.233.205.180] helo=[192.168.2.35]) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GZ4xg-0007Pn-NG; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:24 +1000 Message-ID: <45322745.9090101@brooknet.com.au> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:17 +1000 From: Sam Lawrance User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061015) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eol1@yahoo.com References: <20061015055332.82539.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061015055332.82539.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Bloat X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:19:27 -0000 Peter Thoenen wrote: > A couple months ago somebody posted a heads up on this list from the > FreeBSD Ports Team about ports bloat and the massive influx of new > software along with all the unmaintained ports. Has the port team ever > thought about: > > A) Making a delete port pr request. This way port maintainers INSTEAD > of marking 'transfer ownership to ports@freebsd.org' and hoping > somebody takes it over one day could actually just delete ports they no > longer wish to maintain. There should be some sort of WARN marking > mechanism though (valid for X months (maybe 6)) that notifies any new > user (or current via a portupgrade and EPOCH bumb) that this port is no > longer maintained and scheduled for deletion unless one of them takes > over maitainership by DATE. > You can do this right now: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/dads-deprecated.html Committers will regularly sweep through expired ports and remove them. > B) In line with A, has anybody thought about just marking ALL > ports@freebsd.org as scheduled for deletion on X date. Thousands of > people are using these ports, you can't tell me if they were actually > scheduled to be deleted from the tree at least one of the users > wouldn't take over maintainership. > That's a fairly drastic action, and it would cause a massive amount of work. People know we have unmaintained ports - they can submit updates if they wish. Pruning out obsolete ports is useful too, but it requires motivation apart from an interest in just a single port.