From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 06:44:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC04F4E9; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F8CFAA3; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id l13so132465iga.13 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:44:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/VwhyJdScEQXWBJJHwJ3/lMgz0LBNY9n2xBS02Obmtg=; b=Mkq87J+OyVGnyzjChIJIFpKpREs33yCIzbFZo4AOs/d9E2C0devaivbQseVhNj1lLR njMWCuvXU4dZBFqr57VEMTttQlw4Joz+5iMR7l4f15hOGMbfKCapnSsy316zueIO73un 90TSSYdT+3ZQnuZFEzgmWptV7dEt5ZD77de8suvpYVMD+NvDSbdwXBLwGo2AR3vqVl6b IbGUHDmYY7gmrzTSD75WeeNB+v7IxF6uMaOFwRsOmHKMwso2ZUYZY01+y8rw9bFEQ5Rl M16cWXttvKEy3ftz9K5ggDoCOR5XAEDTIAC95FTERLuvA8UJJ/DvGbL3JgegBwhxre/j YLgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.91.69 with SMTP id o5mr36736641icm.34.1411886659995; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.163.70 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:44:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5427A8C5.1010703@freebsd.org> References: <20140927143830.1d25968f.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140927222208.GA20243@e-new.0x20.net> <20140928080643.1b5c991b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <5427A8C5.1010703@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:44:19 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Rk5BhhTqJ7Cz4KCqSd9wyMFCXDg Message-ID: Subject: Re: WiFi 802.11/ac PCIe supported adaptor From: Kevin Oberman To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 06:44:20 -0000 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > On 09/27/14 23:06, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> Am Sun, 28 Sep 2014 00:22:09 +0200 >> Lars Engels schrieb: >> >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 02:38:30PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> >>>> I'm looking for a replacemnt for my 802.11g WiFi PCIe adaptor card and >>>> want to >>>> replace it with an 802.11ac adaptor. >>>> >>>> Since I made very bad experiences with CURRENT and support of modest >>>> modern hardware >>>> (Haswell CPU/Intel 7260 DualBand WiFi NIC), I'd like to ask here first. >>>> >>>> I found this PCIe adaptor card attractive: >>>> >>>> GigaByte Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I >>>> >>>> I can not find ad hoc the WLAN chip used on that specific card, but >>>> maybe someone has >>>> experiences with that litte board. >>>> >>> FreeBSD doensn't support 802.11ac, yet. >>> >> I'm bitter aware of that. This OS doesn't support the chipsets, even if >> they provide also >> 11a/g/n. >> >> We have at our department now a bunch of Lenovo hardware, with Intels >> 7260 chipset. The >> laptops are now runninmg Ubuntu 14.0X something which obviously supports >> the WiFi chip. >> I'm the last man standing with FreeBSD on my private Lenovo :-( >> > > This is a serious problem. I'm about ready to install Linux on my laptop > as well just to get a usable system. Some kind of funding directed to a > willing developer would be hugely valuable for the usability of the > operating system on recent hardware. This is probably more important even > than Haswell graphics since without a driver, Haswell is merely slow, > whereas networking is completely broken. > -Nathan While I don't yet have need of it and probably won't any time soon, Haswell support is becoming critical. It is getting more and more difficult to get boards with pre-Haswell processors, especially for laptops. It is still pretty easy to get supported WiFi cards for both desktops and laptops. I feel Haswell is getting to be a critical issue. VESA is available for Haswell systems, but it is very slow and too often the BIOS support of VESA is poor. Vendors want text mode for boot and such, but really have little interest in graphics as Intel has good native Windows drivers for them.Still waiting for Lenovo to fix VESA for my old Sandy Bridge laptop. I used VESA, which was badly broken, for almost a year waiting for KMS support, though I did get a recent BIOS update and have not tried VESA on it. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com