From owner-freebsd-smp Wed Dec 4 10:11:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E782137B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail15.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2752043EC2 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 13719 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2002 18:11:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2002 18:11:49 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4IBhuH041562; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:11:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01ed01c29bb9$d8027550$1d0a310a@de.tiscali.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 13:11:50 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Oliver Blasnik Subject: Re: Intel SE7500CW2 narrowed down... Cc: smp@FreeBSD.ORG, beemern , Lanny Baron Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Dec-2002 Oliver Blasnik wrote: > Hi Lanny, > > From: "Lanny Baron" > > ["Our Servers do work with FreeBSD"] >> So in short, and yes this is repetitive, if you or the other fellow had >> chosen us to build you a Server, you and the other fellow would not have >> encountered the SMP problem and, you would still be running FreeBSD. > > Even worse, multiple times... "FreeBSD SMP for Lannys servers"? ;) > > And, no, why should we buy (a) from the US and (b) from a "small" OEM? > Working in a european-wide company has some side effects - for example > a policy to buy only specific servers from specific vendors (which have > to be available in all that countrys). So, there are only the "Big > Players", f.ex. HP, SUN, ...´ > > Back to track: this is no solution; buying hardware by OS needs and not > by system needs/policy/[insert-any-other-reason]. If the OS doesn't work > with a standard hardware it's simply of no use. Don't get me wrong, I > WANT to use FreeBSD - but this isn't my choice anymore if it does not run > on our typical hardware. I hate to use Linux and I definately hate to > use Solaris (and even pay for that crap). The problem here (which people don't seem to realize) is that this ServerWorks mobo BIOS is exhibiting NON-STANDARD behavior. Go complain to SW about their BIOS or get them to tell us what in the world they have changed so we can work around it. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message