From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 24 17:58:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC86A1065675 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8154B8FC12 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfy7 with SMTP id fy7so2026355vcb.13 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:58:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n4ZCNhlsFwj7YMWQhCXXeCesABYu5plIRN2eIOMdmQA=; b=B83o/LZ2sl1kCayenmRtH/FPUCWurRr/bPD1LFTSCXgraD6vpuuDsqCfHvmtHo/uOq bkxu4U4dSA0+w+9/L9YilTcFqVidfB7Oy5dn2FtfY7NOajGd8E05j7tkvvR5bYz25bCU 86YLME6THsmfz4t9tE5u6ZfjaTHH3w3z1rzp4nJjIRKwdhdiYWJA7jtoTB7NOoMGOVmI IAuHJ2pzF82bAVbeVEQgt0/tTlNjKfhhCXyaiH96qWEv+avRp2manbsuXXPYmbQ8vts5 fTVcSjFiuuyrBDb5oV3rIxoGfWwdlKsci9DQAnTbX/u0XseKO4hvT7mlypcOZC5cgic2 5s0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.221.1.76 with SMTP id np12mr3028645vcb.46.1340560731042; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.16.148 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FE73F2D.9020704@cran.org.uk> References: <20120608083519.GA8252@lonesome.com> <20120608113104.GA1720@night.db.net> <20120612221505.GA77335@night.db.net> <4FD7C615.2020209@FreeBSD.org> <4FE4BCAE.3020405@FreeBSD.org> <4FE73F2D.9020704@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:58:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Time for a fresh start, it's time folks X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:58:51 -0000 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 22/06/2012 19:42, Benedict Reuschling wrote: >> >> These things take time, but the webpages are not broken at the moment, >> just outdated. Hence a replacement should not be our top priority (at >> least, it's not mine). However, I would be interested to see some design >> studies if someone is interested in doing them to see what can be done. > > > Something we should consider during any redesign is whether we want to > continue using hover menus - > http://uxmovement.com/navigation/why-hover-menus-do-users-more-harm-than-= good/ > argues against them. > > Also, this can probably be easily fixed on the current site but the > Developers hover menu is out of sync with > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/index.html (which appears if you click th= e > Developers title) - the Repository links aren't available other than from > the hover menu. =A0Also, "Release Engineering" is linked to from the "Get > FreeBSD" menu but is on the "Developers" page. If there are changes coming, may I suggest an improvement: put a link to the doc project's new contributor primer in a more visible location on the website. It is now buried 4 clicks deep into the website almost at the very end of the following page: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/sgml.html There needs to be a link to it on these pages: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ The primer is: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html