From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 8 21: 4:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.originative.com (mailgate.originative.com [195.149.39.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E76437B404 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 21:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lobster.originative.co.uk (lobster.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.81]) by mailgate.originative.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D321B24F; Thu, 9 May 2002 05:04:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core) From: Paul Richards To: void Cc: Anthony.Wyatt@csiro.au, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020509034231.GA9051@parhelion.firedrake.org> References: <4ABEF4D887D40745B8D6804C2FFA939F1A75FF@hermes.la.csiro.au> <20020509034231.GA9051@parhelion.firedrake.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 09 May 2002 05:04:43 +0100 Message-Id: <1020917084.15680.19.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2002-05-09 at 05:42, void wrote: > FreeBSD is a research project, but it's also a production-quality > operating system. It is important that it be "loose" enough to keep > hackers interested, but it is also important that it be managed carefully > enough that companies like Yahoo (which employs at least one core team > member, if I'm not mistaken) can continue to depend on it. > > I think that the successful management of the tension between these > goals has a lot to do with why FreeBSD is so useful and interesting. > I guess that these conflicting goals also have a lot to do with the > conflicts within core that Mike alluded to. I think that's pretty close to the truth of it. The project is torn between the anarchical desires of those who just want to hack code with the aim of just having fun by doing cool stuff, and those who see it as a product and want to impose more management on what happens in order to protect the integrity of the product from release to release. Whatever solution the project adopts needs to balance these two desires somehow or another. -- Paul Richards | FreeBSD DVD releases and merchandise. FreeBSD Services Ltd | Hardware, support and development. http://www.freebsd-services.com | Domain names and mail/web hosting. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message