From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 13:28:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7999916A41F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:28:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C3643D49 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:28:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jBQDRax4006312 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:27:37 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:28:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <20051224225721.17983.qmail@web33307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200512241801.28350.kstewart@owt.com> <20051225221653.GA28062@lothlorien.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20051225221653.GA28062@lothlorien.nagual.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512260528.14110.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: BSD Question's. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:28:16 -0000 On Sunday 25 December 2005 02:16 pm, dick hoogendijk wrote: > On 24 Dec Kent Stewart wrote: > > There is also the problem that some sites are designed to work with > > Internet Explorer. You can try to visit with firefox but that > > doesn't always work even with firefox on XP. > > NO site should be designed to work with IExplorer. I know it's done, > but it should not! Why do we have W3C? If we could all just do things > "by the book" the internet would be a much nicer place to visit. > > People who design for IExplorer are bad! They have microsoft in mind > and _not_ the visitors. I hate it when choice gets violated! It > should be called a crime against freedom. I have seen some that don't work properly except with IE but the only=20 sites I have encountered that demand IE are online banking. They seem=20 to only understand how to let you login securely using IE. There are some sites such as Tyco that only work with Mozilla style=20 browsers. It depends on the push techology built into Mozilla style=20 browsers. You can see what the Navy Observatory time is but the=20 automated gif only works with the mozilla products. See http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/what1.html Each browser has some technology that they depend on and you have to use=20 that browser before you can use their services. The 80/20 rule probably=20 applies because the banks can program for IE and get 85% of the people=20 without trippling their web development costs. Kent > > imho: sites designed for 'iexplorer only' should be banned ;-) =2D-=20 Kent Stewart Richland, WA "Nunca te acostar=E1s sin saber una cosa m=E1s" http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html