From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 21 9: 2:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from student-mailhub.dcu.ie (ns.dcu.ie [136.206.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0206137BA07 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:02:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie) Received: from enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (postfix@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie [136.206.15.5]) by student-mailhub.dcu.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3/893-FD) with ESMTP id RAA30934; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:01:17 GMT Received: by enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie (Postfix, from userid 2034) id 18D817C94; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:01:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:01:18 +0000 From: David Murphy To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) Message-ID: <20000321170118.M5367@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> References: <20000321121048.E49550@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <13387.953657029@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <13387.953657029@zippy.cdrom.com>; from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com on Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 08:43:49AM -0800 X-no-archive: yes Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting <13387.953657029@zippy.cdrom.com> by "Jordan K. Hubbard" : > I challenge you to find anything about 4.0 which is inherently less > stable or usable than, say, 3.4. Well, to be perfectly honest, I don't know what the 2.X->3.X upgrade procedure was like, but upgrading from 3.4 to 4.0 is fiddly, and it doesn't help that the instructions are counterintuitively at the bottom of /usr/src/UPDATING which, to the untrained eye, looks like a changelog, and lusers like me don't read changelogs to see if someone happened to put vital instructions at the bottom of it. > We've come a long way and probably need to stop scaring people off > from our releases. We didn't do a 30 day code freeze this time for > nothing you know! Well, don't take this personally (anyone), but I wish you (plural) would make up your (plural) minds. If it's a not-ready-for-real-use release, it'd be nice if people didn't start flaming other people (Who, I might add, read the release notes carefully, looking for warnings) for trying to use it for real work with "Fool! Don't you know that 4.0 means it's not ready for real use?!". -- When asked if it is true that he uses his wheelchair as a weapon he will reply: "That's a malicious rumour. I'll run over anyone who repeats it." Stephen Hawking - [http://www.smh.com.au/news/0001/07/features/features1.html] David Murphy - For PGP public key, send mail with Subject: send-pgp-key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message