From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 25 01:37:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0A63295 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qe0-x232.google.com (mail-qe0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 840EC21E0 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 1so1176926qec.9 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:37:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qlVtJolOG1Y3g8XZi2J6MVAbH/rEK5WW79L/8tEyhKg=; b=bq35CsNhgtTiPpx4kJOkHvL3z9dTbcwNkBs5iC31mmZhFk3JdL+fLJZBI42jS0znQ0 CByH+zRuo+jOSvyeAzDOrhk9tg3qSEUwKe2Xmgk2IsxBPLuJwHX9vZqFnaGm71Zchbyy Z/zvFvplIYiymE3bkQMUn87kbzj4m9Q7sPS54= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=qlVtJolOG1Y3g8XZi2J6MVAbH/rEK5WW79L/8tEyhKg=; b=SQEK/NrEDJict22PXM1A8cB23GF2XSUwIpIlaY7aDV0p0tYFpT0oiqs3R4C0RY/YXE EmbLtebqV6mDa1x+aTEPFN8Si9yrYAOQKoOdcc3AloWdgM2J1ApyqaMNJDRwUmPXIowM Ro4wb08G9A7jqL7sPlbwbDiJdeB7LtTCl490fHlU8yHzpHkoENDfrPqFxZlX6Qh4NbeU LY1xCe2rRRm/dEO3C+39JY6TOoP+z1BGWh6pUxFbw8HU2xIODbFFxWHCDpQDQCqyPKVE Ky9WLlS3bVkJkKY09nOBLcf4G03xZMod8gM30jk3hEuq9Vnw/9Z0/RfbO/yEdRbjAIH5 Z/Fw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlnuGLt9Dj/EoqLJnRR0+jyIyThEDMst2YOKdxquy6o6YiRSmpzyNULU70oZrnigLmgWkKf X-Received: by 10.224.34.71 with SMTP id k7mr41368868qad.15.1385343451754; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:37:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.63.101 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 17:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 20:37:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: hw.pci.do_power_nodriver=3 To: "hackers@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:37:32 -0000 Is there any reason we can not set hw.pci.do_power_nodriver=3 by default? My understanding is that there were problems with hardware being powered off and not being powered back on when drivers were loaded. Is this still a concern? If yes, can we flip the switch in HEAD and fix the drivers? -- Eitan Adler