From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 9 8:32:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ADC14D34; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13770; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:32:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Brett Taylor To: Brett Glass Cc: Nik Clayton , Rod Taylor , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Good memes vs. good code In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990908195708.0463db80@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org God I can't believe I'm replying to this but... On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Brett Glass wrote: > The people who have argued with me the longest and the loudest on > this list have been those who are very code-centric. For example, > Jordan Hubbard wrote, in a recent message: > > >All this talk of dominant memes and subverting the > >current paradigm is mere fiddle-faddle when it comes right down to it > >becuase it's the front-liners who do the work and the front liners who > >I respect. > > By "front liners," of course, he means the coders. But the development > of good memes is actually more important, as is shown by the success > of Linux. Development of the memes is, of course, done behind the > front lines, while spreading them requires going out and talking to > PEOPLE -- not coding. And spending a lot of time in online discussions > such as this one. EXCEPT for the fact that you fail to mention that this was about people doing ACTUAL advocacy, not writing code, not contriubting packages, or anything else - ADVOCACY. If you want people start listening to you at least show some respect and do not quote out of context to try to fit your points. God. Brett ***************************************************** Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Co-Editor in Chief brett@daemonnews.org * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message