From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 7 16:22:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885DA28C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixuser2000-fbsd@yahoo.com) Received: from nm35-vm2.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (nm35-vm2.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.151.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB1E62698 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [106.10.166.112] by nm35.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2013 16:21:58 -0000 Received: from [106.10.151.155] by tm1.bullet.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2013 16:21:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2013 16:21:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 810891.71790.bm@omp1009.mail.sg3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24113 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2013 16:21:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1375892517; bh=1jftmOQVNFU7FbgyifPrd64iMb/WtDJa8DdePoVhEjs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DG9qVvWLthRuEmiWcV6Cbyj66MvuVYVeXCKxK4ncBInSJq6vQPvthFiaIpyNHx0PTPDoB7atXk7qSMNjHgPOu3GvbCldOl7mb0QyVYjlv5tQL0y8Jyclq2dhexrcRdbK9sgj/SLV01Y5B958hDlv9qKYbEYz7Ts0wkTHGKpgkV4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=w6dUxbv8nZZiXZ3oG3mil91T+1gW+uUrQe6LRc8oVhmoqB1AqTY0LAQi4FoeUxCRb2RRnvh9b95O8kvTTE0ex4TczSqrwj3MTerq5Xi/ORQTAMQDsRZfj645fDidDA/llzywDW8dt5wiqlSggiEu+1xDuHwuCMpWhQnNvrC8A/0=; X-YMail-OSG: FzVtiMwVM1kVxvoOV0r32nOYR1vVd_CLthbeJ3pvVgT8Xp. js4ydjDcCwLRBIlY8IOXdsNa4.bKq66zNLIEt37xEHXNu4fM2TPBhQZSRAlP e5FDTaWia3N99VopEsU9.DsUm7Hv5x9gh3hYKZUGNsM2PLyCN6Z78Tj.1gmE RO.N8g8kbkx.PHFDES.4Hzy758GVzB3IVBp9zRbeM8Q6Z6JVunz.fb.lauvL 9gdRQECB3HogogADPp9yVghGF6tnGn47NRexRm8x2q9Rjs3dn_4x7A0omQua cgQL7IMcbC8qufX7v9qKsVu.4tkSO.f7xMcX.7PnXQDVZnQqqhqqWWST2i.T cHcwkJiuf9E2obJSw7AvRR9w0wBbmooc50aWGX3R79IFAAz.vcXnxF7_DgVs ikUX2DKrL.FYvHiUw60Bt749Q99R704IqsOQbGB71xdAS4SQuSHnxKg_Xqw9 J_B13D2T3Opu7Ah46VQELZ5NDE2VzRehhi_Ny0vdcz6uDifecpVUqSy1hc_g FpuT1hYiFk1O3Z_Jc6B7dvrPzjG8Lr7LWruXHI.cXtB.T57c36RNqgUDLiVM RSVBKzYtJEZVN.dKX_9TUqZrUBHEDt9MTZav3yUWDEdCYH9Shn1mrUQm8Edo a59Jq..kp.Q.KBk_VBOKaHM1XQXbKlelcnruXfaGH Received: from [103.245.47.20] by web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:21:57 SGT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, CgoKCgo.X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBGcm9tOiBhdXJmYWxpZW4gPGF1cmZhbGllbkBnbWFpbC5jb20.Cj5UbzogTWlrZSBKZWF5cyA8bWlrZS5qZWF5c0Byb2dlcnMuY29tPiAKPkNjOiBtZXhhc0BicmlzLmFjLnVrOyBmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZyAKPlNlbnQ6IFRodXJzZGF5LCAxIEF1Z3VzdCAyMDEzIDk6MjUgUE0KPlN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBsZWFybgo.IAo.Cj4KPk9uIEF1ZyAxLCAyMDEzLCBhdCA4OjMxIEFNLCBNaWtlIEplYXlzIHdyb3RlOgo.Cj4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.152.567 References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1375892517.24063.YahooMailNeo@web190704.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 00:21:57 +0800 (SGT) From: Quark Subject: Re: learn To: aurfalien , Mike Jeays In-Reply-To: <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "mexas@bris.ac.uk" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Quark List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 16:22:06 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: aurfalien =0A>To: Mike Jeays =0A>Cc: mexas@bri= s.ac.uk; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =0A>Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013 9:= 25 PM=0A>Subject: Re: learn=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mik= e Jeays wrote:=0A>=0A>> On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST)=0A>> Anton = Shterenlikht wrote:=0A>> =0A>>>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 1= 4:29:25 +0200=0A>>>> From: herbert langhans =0A>>>> To:= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A>>>> Subject: Re: learn=0A>>> =0A>>>> The = handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost=0A>>>> t= here. You know that, corebug.=0A>>> =0A>>> I completely disagree.=0A>>> =0A= >>> The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project.=0A>>> In = particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation=0A>>> effort I've se= en. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me=0A>>> start using FreeBSD in t= he first place. In about 2003 I tried=0A>>> several linux distros, and got = completely lost. The available=0A>>> documentation for linux, at least at t= hat time, was not designed=0A>>> for a novice, certainly not at my level. I= n contrast, the=0A>>> FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to ins= tall=0A>>> and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9= .=0A>>> =0A>>> Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot.=0A>>>= The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource=0A>>> I would recomme= nd to a FreeBSD novice.=0A>>> =0A>>> Anton=0A>>> __________________________= _____________________=0A>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>>= > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>>> To unsu= bscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>> = =0A>> Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using= FreeBSD in 1997,=0A>> at version 2.2.something.=0A>> =0A>> Greg Lehey's bo= ok "The Complete FreeBSD" is also excellent, and available as a free=0A>> d= ownload - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or purchases= .=0A>> =0A>> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/=0A>=0A>I sugges= t downloading the USB image, combine that with Googling and bayam, off you = go.=0A>=0A>Of course, supplement with RTFMing which should always be at you= r side and all will be well.=0A>=0A>And lastly, having membership on this f= ine list is key.=A0 The FreeBSD community is indeed grand.=0A>=0A>Hell, I m= ay even get a hoody from the store :)=0A=0Ahey, where are the hoodies??? I = found for mozilla & openSUSE on their respective sites very good looking ho= odies, but nor FreeBSD=0AI won't hesitate to order one for reasonable price= of 20-30 USD=0A=0A=0A>=0A>- aurf=0A>______________________________________= _________=0A>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>http://lists.fre= ebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>To unsubscribe, send any mai= l to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A>=0A>