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Date: 23 Sep 1995 08:10:02 +0800
From: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm)
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References: <199509222128.FAA15859@haywire.DIALix.COM>, <199509222338.BAA15700@uriah.heep.sax.de>
Subject: Re: rmail and brain-dead mail systems .. patch enclosed
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j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) writes:
>As Peter Wemm wrote:
>> 
>> If you drop the From_ line, how do you communicate the envelope sender
>> address?
>> 
>> It's most definately needed... For example, when you send email to
>> (say) current@freebsd.org, the envelope sender is
>> "owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org" which happens to be aliased to
>> "mailman".

>Hmmmmmm....

>j@uriah 138% perl -e 'while(<>) {\
>  next unless /^From /;\
>  ($f,$u)=split; $fr{$u}++;\
>}\
>\
>foreach $u reverse(sort(bycount (keys %fr))) {\
>  print "$u: $fr{$u} times\n"\
>}\
>exit;\
>sub bycount {$fr{$a} <=> $fr{$b}}' $mail
>joerg_wunsch: 34 times
>bde@zeta.org.au: 3 times
>sax-saxnet-request@sax.sax.de: 3 times
>uucp: 3 times
>syssgm@devetir.qld.gov.au: 2 times
>uk1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de: 2 times
>peter@freefall.freebsd.org: 2 times
>cutie.ka.sub.org!pmh@pilhuhn.de: 1 times
>... (remaining addresses that only appear once)

>As you can see, there's 34 times "joerg_wunsch" in the envelope
>address.  Pretty much useless, don't you think?

>And that's with the stock rmail(1), of course. :)

Ahh, yes.. but those 34 joerg_wunsch addresses were probably from
cvs-committers, or core or one of the other "unguarded" mailing lists
on freefall..  If you mail to -committers or core, you get the bounces
personally because of the sendmail configuration on freefall.  But the
other mailing list stuff goes to jmb.

Cheers,
-Peter

>-- 
>cheers, J"org

>joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/
>Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)