From owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 1 04:47:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702FE16A4CE; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 04:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv01.sparkit.no (srv01.sparkit.no [193.69.116.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD7243D31; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 04:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ws ([193.69.114.88]) by srv01.sparkit.no (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i21ClNSD081771; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:47:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eivind@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ws (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ws (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i21CkKmd047235; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:46:20 GMT (envelope-from eivind@ws) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by ws (8.12.9/8.12.10/Submit) id i21CkFc4047234; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:46:15 GMT (envelope-from eivind) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:45:14 +0000 From: Eivind Eklund To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20040301124514.GD27008@FreeBSD.org> References: <200402040638.i146cVAi035977@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040229233524.GA48293@dragon.nuxi.com> <1078098236.62463.50.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20040301104026.GC27008@FreeBSD.org> <20040301115006.GA64348@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040301115006.GA64348@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org cc: Joe Marcus Clarke cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org cc: ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Gettext issues (was Re: cvs commit: ports CHANGES) X-BeenThere: cvs-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:47:27 -0000 On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:50:06AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:40:27AM +0000, Eivind Eklund wrote: > > > Talking of gettext: I've been toying with the idea of having WITHOUT_NLS > > settable in sysinstall, or defaulting NLS to off. I believe most FreeBSD > > users will want the english version, even if translations are available. > > > > As a such, I think inflicting the level of pain the gettext changes give > > on our users unless they find a fairly obscure knob is a Bad Idea. > > > > Any thoughts? > > This is worth exploring further. I certainly do not expect to ever > need on my system the features gettext provides, although it's likely > that not all software can be easily weaned of the dependency. Just putting WITHOUT_NLS=yes in /etc/make.conf has mostly solved the problem for me. I'm not sure how much it removes, but it has managed to remove enough that I've never run into the gettext problems after I added it. Eivind.