From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 01:58:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CFF16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273F843FBD for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 01:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-2ivfjg5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.206.5] helo=mindspring.com) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vCQc-0006Dm-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 01:58:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3F584FE9.D324DDFE@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 01:57:13 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray References: <200309050646.h856kTqi034034@grimreaper.grondar.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4af32e7608f5da881bfdad0e9b1ae6db393caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 08:58:55 -0000 Mark Murray wrote: > Brett Glass writes: > > So, yes, if you have read GPLed code, you are at serious risk. At any > > time, the FSF could claim that your work was derivative and had to be > > given away for free. You might prevail in court, but doing so could be > > just as costly as losing the proceeds from your work. > > Is that the extent of the 'risk'? Pure supposition? > > I'll start worrying when there is an enforceable precedent in my > area. Spectators should realize that Brett is arguing from the point of view of U.S. Jurisdiction, while Mark is arguing from the point of view of South African jurisdiction. One of Mark's early involvements in FreeBSD came when FreeBSD cryptography developement moved to South Africa under Mark's ministrations to avoid US ITAR export restrictions and laws on munitions, effectively pretending that the U.S. laws didn't actually exist. So if you are outside U.S. Jurisdiction (either directly or by treaty), and don't care about being "Skylarov'ed" by the U.S. government should you ever visit the U.S., then Marks points are completely valid. -- Terry