From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 13:02:52 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BB8E87B89 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: from mail.grem.de (outcast.grem.de [213.239.217.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A62936C33D for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@grem.de) Received: (qmail 94661 invoked by uid 89); 20 Dec 2017 12:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.250.192?) (mg@grem.de@46.244.226.155) by mail.grem.de with ESMTPA; 20 Dec 2017 12:56:07 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default From: Michael Gmelin X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14G60) In-Reply-To: <20171220123250.hzbxaz6qbfb2wzrh@ivaldir.net> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:56:06 +0100 Cc: Johannes Lundberg , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <47CA1ED8-A95E-4BD8-99EE-639AE466B9CB@grem.de> References: <20171220123250.hzbxaz6qbfb2wzrh@ivaldir.net> To: Baptiste Daroussin X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:02:52 -0000 > On 20. Dec 2017, at 13:32, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >=20 >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:20:20AM +0000, Johannes Lundberg wrote: >> Hi >>=20 >> I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state >> having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the >> end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland >> enabled. >>=20 >> libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers >> from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg >> packages. (might be something more that I missed) >>=20 >> Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with >> flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices >> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no >> escaping that. >>=20 >> Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but >> access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it. >>=20 >> If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are >> already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window >> server. >>=20 >> What do you think? >>=20 >=20 > I agree on that, we should activate wayland everywhere by defualt, as it d= oes > not prevent at all from having a fully fonctionnal regular X working as we= ll. >=20 > All wayland option should be on, and this as nothing to do with flavors :)= >=20 > Please do it :) >=20 > Best regards, > Bapt I add my "vote" from the X11 list: Yes please, I had exactly that problem ye= sterday. Best, Michael=