From owner-freebsd-current Mon Aug 27 18:29:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6DA37B407 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7S1Tjs40058; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:29:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200108280009.RAA18212@mina.soco.agilent.com> References: <200108280009.RAA18212@mina.soco.agilent.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:29:42 -0400 To: Darryl Okahata , current@FreeBSD.ORG, Julian Elischer From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Headsup! KSE believers should show up! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:09 PM -0700 8/27/01, Darryl Okahata wrote: > Is there some reason why KSE couldn't be integrated >ASAP *AFTER* 5.0 is released? > >[ Personally, I'd like to see it in 5.0, but, with all the qualms that > people seem to have, I'm curious as to why it can't be integrated > immediately after 5.0 is cut? This way, Julian's MFCs are reduced, > and it gives people more time to pound on KSE. ] In the interests of progress, let us assume for the moment that most of the qualms about KSE could be addressed by more testing of it, and a little more work for non-Intel platforms. Based on that assumption, anyone who is eager for KSE should realize that NOW is the time to step forward and help out with it. If we can get a reasonable amount of testing done in the next two or three weeks, then maybe we could get KSE committed for "5.0", and also get "5.0" released when we expected to release it. I think this would be the ideal outcome. If you have any energy to spare right now, let's put that energy towards the ideal outcome. But NOW is the time to help out, not in late October or November. I have changed the subject for this message, because I am hoping that a more positive subject might get a more positive result. Anyone who does think KSE is worth having for 5.0, should step up and provide Julian with the help needed to address the legitimate concerns which have been mentioned. Julian does not need people descending into a flame-war, he needs people to show up and help out. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message