From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 06:05:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF341065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A268FC21 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1148152and.13 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:05:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C6+xOpBsTcj0iIBXjpJJYjSfZfdD+NRVzl+EFyjZd8s=; b=eLOkl5TG7b1VmUJ4Ruz1zagCoBXZqn+rNe5CeMaA8e3njS+Gvf3zSaArByBrweLxTV vIqbmusmgZwNpYRYkTnZb1eJDnZCqQBwDSzyo/jYxqCFYSeJelmRi4omLceZl2iiY1sB Kr616W3tgXTWF/7jWW6roSM22L8fon29BbA74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sVxjkaYNHyAZAPflxZnNnY6/vvqmHmCPvRzcx8HksTWlFYarXMia1PTrLZyQSxi/oD /o2YbvK57vFoawWrO5qo0E7aP5SOFAusgW/45T9ZXARyqaaSzCNL19AP4br3OSELHMU8 XgU9K7I5EJRaOVdIXf2G66rNaSM0d0rDhb2kQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.228.17 with SMTP id a17mr4736875anh.31.1249970704742; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:05:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:05:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Identry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:05:06 -0000 On 8/10/09, Identry wrote: > Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours > and it's just not working. I must be stupid. If you're open to suggestions, there are two typical camps on this. first one being a majority. I've done both, and don't know which one to favor 1) A mix-n match bag of software daemons that make it all work: postfix MTA, dovecot POP3/IMAP, your choice of virtual user database, squirrelmail (or another webmail) product. That gives basic functions. Add anti-spam (spamassassin is common), and anti-virus (clamav). 2) Install Courier suite, in which the same developers have a MTA, POP3/IMAP, webmail suite. Add Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus and your kit is complete. For the first time, I was able to install an email subsystem that eliminates all spam without an anti-spam software app. Based on the blacklists for known spammers, and a blacklist for accidental spammers, we're curbing most if not all other spam mails from being accepted by the MTA. The first blacklist are blocked by the firewall, second blacklist is checked at each incoming connection and the MTA will send notice to the remote connection (in the event it's a real person sending mail from a spamming host), on how to clear themselves. There isn't any AV suite to speak of, but if we're killing all susceptable spams, the viruses are from the same bunch so we're killing two birds with one stone. Soon, I'll revisit Courier and see if my same mail setup is able to accomplish the same goal, and I know the first blacklist will happen, it's the 2nd I'm not so sure about. Getting a toaster-application is nice, speedy setup. but you work with it's limitations or drawbacks. Building your own gives more flexibility, and depending on setup, it'll be no more than a toaster-application -- or a whole lot more. Ask us questions, there's lots of posts online. For a quick setup, i always - Install FreeBSD - Run freebsd-update fetch install && reboot - Install binary packages, and update them using your choice port upgrade utility, if any That's the quickest way to get a server live and operational... because a non-modified port options = same binary that's offered as a package. Identry, send me a mail offlist if you want clarification on this post. Good luck.