From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 25 18:51:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA07603 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07537 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA13533; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:50:12 -0500 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:50 EST Received: from lakes.water.net (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.water.net (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09317; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.water.net (8.8.3/8.6.9) id VAA02025; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:28:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:28:59 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199703260228.VAA02025@lakes.water.net> To: ponds!rah.star-gate.com!hasty, ponds!lambert.org!terry Subject: Re: Cool Web page interface to mail + search engine? Cc: ponds!freebsd.org!hackers, ponds!indiana.edu!jfieber, ponds!freefall.freebsd.org!jmb, ponds!dihelix.com!langfod Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > And the answer is!!! > > We adopt a new communication form, which is: > > 1. controlled > 2. has clear topics > 3. You communicate with a centralized agent who is then responsible > for distributing the information be in a web base form , or a > a less sophisticated medium such as a mailing list. > > What I have in mind is a mechanism in which people post formal > documents and the discussions are mediated by a "chair person" of the > discussion. The random thought walks that we currently have in this > list can't be managed by the simplistic mailing scheme that we have. > In brief, we are quickly out growing the capabilities of the > current mailing list scenario. Err... how "real time" do you want this conversation to be. That is, assuming something like a WWW server (i.e. some clever CGI scripts) might be neat... but that kinda leaves us poor UUCP slobs out of it... - Dave R. - > > BTW: Your so call mail header problems are not that difficult to > tackle if we control the mail header generation within the mailing > list program and tag each mail message with an appropriate header. > > > Next 8) > > Regards, > Amancio > > >From The Desk Of Terry Lambert : > > > Thats one way of looking at it. However, you seem to imply that > > > to thread a topic the date and subject line are sufficient. Yet, > > > we both know that people love to wander off in different directions > > > using the same subject line. It seems that we need stronger criteria > > > for what constitutes a topic in order to have meaningful topic threads. > > > > > > The difference between your point of view and mine is a matter of > > > syntax vs. semantics. > > > > > > Got another riddle? 8) > > > > Sure. I have three. > > > > Say I grant your position above. > > > > 1) How do you make me change MUA's so I provide you with an > > "In-reply-to:" header when you provide me with a > > "Message-ID:" header? > > > > 2) How do you make me change MUA's so I provide "Message-ID:" > > headers on all the messages I originate? > > > > Answers: > > > > 1) You don't. You can't tell me what mailer I can or can't run. > > > > 2) You don't. You can't tell me what mailer I can or can't run. > > > > > > Now the third riddle: > > > > 3) How do you approximate threading, given the above, and the fact > > that you only control the list server, not the clients? > > > > Answers? > > > > > > Regards, > > Terry Lambert > > terry@lambert.org > > --- > > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > > or previous employers. > > >