From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 23 16:54:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E44106566C; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD448FC0A; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m4NGsu697317; Fri, 23 May 2008 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id QAA05864; Fri, 23 May 2008 16:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <200805231652.QAA05864@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 May 2008 08:39:37 PDT." <20080523153937.GA40374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:52:53 +0100 From: Dieter Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-drivers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Open Graphics Project is now taking pre-orders X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:54:58 -0000 > I think what people (not just here, but folks on Slashdot as well) want > to know is: is the PCI-X choice *purely* for development reasons, e.g. > will the retail/non-development version (read: transistor-based, no > FPGA) of the card be PCIe? > > If the manufacturer plans on keeping everything PCI-X -- dev cards and > commercial/retail cards -- they are making a *huge* mistake. The plan, as I understand it, is: Develop GPU logic using OGD1 boards. Sell as many OGD1 boards as possible to raise money needed (estimated at US$2M) to fabricate ASIC. Probably do other FLOSS friendly hardware projects to raise money for ASIC. (Ideas welcome) Build OGC boards with ASIC, no FPGA. The ASICs are expected to sell in *much* larger quantities than the FPGA boards. I'm 99.9% sure that the ASIC based OGC boards will be available as PCIe. Possibly PCI or PCI-X and AGP as well, and the bare ASIC chips will be available for embedded applications (PDAs, kiosks, etc.). The big hurdle is raising the US$2M needed to fab the ASIC.