From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 23 01:35:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA15B1065679 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C13A8FC1C for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.200.221] by n18.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2009 01:22:31 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.25] by t9.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2009 01:22:31 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.171] by t4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2009 01:22:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp112.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2009 01:22:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 760272.43043.bm@omp112.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28193 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Dec 2009 01:22:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1261531351; bh=3+iTpffF+FySoCtlUA9ifsswTvDJvRB56IP0VoPLiZw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nf4YY6UMwaItzRreiI5sPrsAcXS6+sqJV1OaFnl6PQotuZEKsSxWKRsNUzdhZm04GZ3JxIuhzoXHKkQ4T78nNd1Z1G8jqC5x8tWR4+hbqQwPo8RuTWbPB/yV8WdHPCcuRbceT25wFByH6jyHnkSzMftjxQiOawy1G8wj9u0kMYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CoDUs/gr5/V/VXa/+YjMb7LIN1rJqj8btdu2WzSky4eHwKRzlfWD3xvo8ARj7qdZObbdGj6BWwedhsaV5sykIL7ffx4LYeB5yvXVuGKBuRkywxI3Z8qYEtPdGPq89NgnFRsoWpWs9zHLYcFsg8bXKp6y+ZI/XtGRACFGrkyB1dM=; Message-ID: <576433.27739.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lNLJbGYVM1kIVLtgKxKNr.KFZ86P_oE6dnH0YMyF9VN01MBFvmEpHuTm9Vww4KmC0TeaiNK1zsEzJu2Lt2TVmxeyVymzy75cqfepEbjJoBzoEr_AljemKFFWjRsZtIO2VJJXvkTmvmhElvuQ4RBF5_tu0gznfrVrXN4GgtwIk8EJukPf8uOPnRG2.I4rqNFz9SwdI8mOBOCTkGdBFkbYS_eaCsrh9vyHR5Uuoj0K1gcFDA4yzCmwBttXJ7ZzdLAUe21FBZ6WZzI9bTQvkzTZdKAR9NbaYjZ4mpifQx6c6scJKWa_cPAjhP9E6ByLkRaF22yzML.loikgSzcxvmov4Xr2Pew6hWP3yB2oiz3.K0HPAZ1Y482ptNuDFQk2_gmQL5DEd7ah6m368bguhN4tGBcEM71R2gX2DOpeKxpn.4LNUdsHfmMUjfWTZ7_FsEDKA_HyurNyFFK8BeCUNmC2me3LBOXRyyG1NxORv8a1Zz34wBVJX0E7PwPLL4G1.9hoj.c8Gg-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:22:31 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:22:31 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Systems running hot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:35:34 -0000 =0A=0A--- On Tue, 12/22/09, James Phillips wrote:= =0A=0A> From: James Phillips =0A> Subject: Re: Syste= ms running hot?=0A> To: "Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav" =0A> Received: = Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 6:21 PM=0A> =0A> =0A> --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Dag= -Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote:=0A> =0A> > From: Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgr= av =0A> > Subject: Re: Systems running hot?=0A> > To: "James Ph= illips" =0A> > Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org=0A> >= Received: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 5:30 AM=0A> > =0A> > Well, Those Of = Us [tm] who actually read the docs and=0A> wrote=0A> > the driver=0A> > kno= w that the temperature is reported by the CPU=0A> itself as=0A> > a 6-bit= =0A> > number which represents degrees Celsius below the=0A> junction=0A> >= temperature.=0A> =0A> Thank-you for the clarification. That does indeed ma= tch my=0A> experience (but I never trusted the number because the CPU=0A> f= an does not spin up to full speed even when the CPU is at=0A> its maximum r= ated (case) temperature). It is the "Core" CPU=0A> temperatures that are ma= de-up:=0A> =0A> "The reported CPU core temperatures are not comparable=0A> = across BIOS revisions. The (reported) core temperatures=0A> averaged about = 77C for the 0052 version, about 88C for the=0A> 0059 revision, about 64-68C= for the 0065 revision, and about=0A> 86-88C for the the 066 revision. For = the 0068 revision the=0A> reported avg. core temps were 83-85C (All under t= he same=0A> Prime95 load.)"=0A> =0A> "Call For testing" - wall of text desc= ribing my=0A> frustrations with the Cooling of an Intel Board.=0A> http://f= orums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=3D36&t=3D32700&p=3D1615440#p1615440=0A> =0A>= > I have no idea where your 65534 came from, but it=0A> certainly=0A> > di= dn't come=0A> > from the CPU.=A0 It may have come from an i2c probe=0A> > m= ounted on the=0A> > motherboard, possibly somewhere near the CPU, or maybe= =0A> the=0A> > BIOS made it=0A> > up out of thin air, or maybe you were act= ually reading=0A> the=0A> > clock, not=0A> > the temperature.=0A> > =0A> = =0A> The BIOS does indeed pull the number out of it's *ss. It is=0A> a comp= osite number formed from about 3 different sensors on=0A> the motherboard.= =0A> =0A> Regards,=0A> =0A> James Phillips=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0= =0A=0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________= _________=0ABe smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk= email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and= switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca