Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 09:44:43 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= <uspoerlein@gmail.com> Cc: Antoine Brodin <antoine@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, Rene Ladan <rene@freebsd.org>, ports-committers <ports-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-ports-all <svn-ports-all@freebsd.org>, svn-ports-head <svn-ports-head@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r534093 - in head: . audio audio/festvox-czech audio/gkrellmvolume2 audio/mixmos audio/mma audio/pd-cyclone audio/shorten audio/taglib-sharp audio/xhippo biology biology/consed biology/... Message-ID: <20200507074443.whhdbabiimrjsand@ivaldir.net> In-Reply-To: <CAJ9axoSoJVwxCstQ%2BDQZKWyNn4Ecmm5o9jythrKgCsGKJYe2uA@mail.gmail.com> References: <202005051538.045FcC5t083716@repo.freebsd.org> <CAJ9axoQKjKg8Hp9xYusGziwy3XTz%2BQa2Dt43-9wuFAE1XgZtww@mail.gmail.com> <CAALwa8nwfb9c0TpZS40jxECM2Mn7pMfmipgfZAuZ32Dy26QAcg@mail.gmail.com> <20200506083234.GA64535@FreeBSD.org> <CAALwa8ks-p7eROa8N7NKoeSbMuwosQWpYkko7j7RtLBAtpBGGw@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ9axoSoJVwxCstQ%2BDQZKWyNn4Ecmm5o9jythrKgCsGKJYe2uA@mail.gmail.com>
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--4bsptnnrid4flj5x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 09:29:56AM +0200, Ulrich Sp=F6rlein wrote: > Am Mi., 6. Mai 2020 um 10:37 Uhr schrieb Antoine Brodin <antoine@freebsd.= org>: > > Trying build of xvattr-1.3_10 even though it is marked BROKEN. > > =3D=3D=3D> xvattr-1.3_10 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found > > =3D> xvattr_1.3.orig.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in > > /poudriere/ports/custom1/distfiles/. > > =3D> Attempting to fetch > > http://xvattr.sourcearchive.com/downloads/1.3/xvattr_1.3.orig.tar.gz > > fetch: http://xvattr.sourcearchive.com/downloads/1.3/xvattr_1.3.orig.ta= r.gz: > > Not Found > > =3D> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > > =3D> port manually into /poudriere/ports/custom1/distfiles/ and try aga= in. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make: stopped in /poudriere/ports/custom1/x11/xvattr > > > > > > Antoine >=20 > Thanks for having another look. Of course, I already have those > distfiles so the ports continue to build fine for me. I haven't > actually _run_ esniper in forever, so I wasn't aware of the runtime > breakage. >=20 > Overall, this mass deletion looks like we're optimizing developer > convenience over our users convenience :/ I do disagree here: user experience is bad when we cannot build the actual = port. When the ports is marked as broken, the regular users cannot already use th= em. We keep the ports as broken for 6 month before deletion, so anyone willing = to fix them has more than time to do it. After those 6 month we are deleting t= hem. Which means they have already been put out of the scope of the actual final users for at least 6 month (plus the time it has been unnoticed as broken b= efore being marked as broken). So for end users: being broken, being marked as broken and being removed fr= om the ports results in the same situation: there is no binary package at all.= The first being the worst because he may try to build and end up in a broken situation. For the developers, being marked as broken help noting the port is actually broken. (I know portsmon is dead and so there is no automatic notification = in case something is marked as broken, but this can be fixed by using services provided by freshports and/or phabricator). 6 month broken, the dev has more then plenty of time to fix it. After those 6 month the developer can still resurect the port easily (we are using a VCS it is not as if it was destroyed forever). Best regards, Bapt --4bsptnnrid4flj5x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAl6zvGsACgkQY4mL3PG3 PlokEg/+IffVxcWMxazu2QTO+NkY+QT75PgHCCIRppgtMhZAi6/Y1EUxapE4j+ml bPFSQnU42ugER+Z7IUK6lK/de8Tb0bvtzhEbvpuU4/izWXeODPWP9eZnctbByKQK 9v5U6UdQ3YejZhzyTKLLhesl9efmuTyWleBv0Z2pmi5JZNDforYXYRuOxO3YANT6 XIyfeRRviB6bqZGsf73pe7TyGoBEcBW8XMItYIJBuVimiXi8MKwhxP+GMVnDTwOz gKew4OOjbtmzky7DgxBHevjVOPFT6f6JC6KZ4QA2sBy/xkbmCcWbXfP+r7oLuzaB /PlT9yiVQddp1NUj5NW3bVSZqLvs3QjwA3sHMczaDZz3huBweVvmHeLdYWwXozu5 svcXpa3mz5EGydfIJvdx2DKGIVLQp90j9s2kRNxKJV+dTGtN4e4gqtf+PK4O9zFv SwxAIm7KGc2UCDdc5sL7gQP3m9DX0l8LFa1QA8P55kS5fvAZMw8Ft5yb27AaiBJc PISrWqBRFO47RDMreAaMZ/Z69JGMcil2HdGV9sl4oLqx+EFexRRruUjeHIob/aR4 WKcioVFJQo3gGO2DqM05PwPBPVbm/8fysEciLtmm51vJcz5wCRqYPhJVnLljsZNk OTneRfyiIZ/ihQkFXNAQXy1HNPSrsErykh5B+yvtPwW5WoG/6ys= =jCRz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4bsptnnrid4flj5x--
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