From owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 11:16:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D1F1065674; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel05.rubas-s05.net (cpanel05.rubas-s05.net [195.182.222.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB3C8FC16; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 4-221.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch ([178.198.221.4] helo=gahrfit.gahr.ch) by cpanel05.rubas-s05.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PccDQ-0001pR-VE; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:16:42 +0100 Received: by gahrfit.gahr.ch (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:11:13 +0100 From: "Pietro Cerutti" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:11:13 +0100 To: Alexandr Kovalenko Message-ID: <20110111111112.GG21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201101031236.p03CanQY094523@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110111081302.GD21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: 0x9571F78E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1203 92B5 3919 AF84 9B97 28D6 C0C2 6A98 9571 F78E User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel05.rubas-s05.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, miwi@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net-im/openfire Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/net-im/openfire/files patch-build-build.xml X-BeenThere: cvs-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gahr@FreeBSD.org List-Id: CVS commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:16:44 -0000 --tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2011-Jan-11, 12:01, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > On 2011-Jan-10, 20:33, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > >> Beta? > >> > >> May I ask, why this went into net-im/openfire port, but not to new > >> port net-im/openfire-devel ? > > > > Ok, I guess I owe an explanation here, since quite a few people have > > raised concerns about me committing a beta version to openfire/. > > > > I am personally against -devel ports. These tends to get marked as > > IGNORE or anyway no longer be valid after the -devel branch has turned > > to stable. I prefer to keep the latest available version in myport/, > > upon user request, keep previous (stable and maintained) versions in > > myport10, myport11, etc... See for example java/netbeans, java/netbeans= 5, > > java/netbeans55, java/netbeans61. This brings two advantages: > > > > - the cost of maintaining a previous version in myport10/ is ~=3D 0 > > - the myport/ directory always contains the latest available version > > > > It is a porter's discretion to ponder wheter a particular release > > version is stable enough to get into the main myport/ directory. > > > > In this particular case, openfire-3.7.0.beta seemed to my workable enou= gh. >=20 > Can you understand, that many of people use ports in production > systems (surprise!) and expect NO beta versions in non -devel ports, > no sudden breakage of their systems without any notice in UPDATING and > so on, whatever you personally think about that. Ports system is not > your personal sandbox/private branch of ports. It is what people use > on their production systems. >=20 > If you want to commit beta, you have 2 choices: >=20 > 1. Wait until non-beta to commit. > 2. Commit beta to -devel port after repocopy. OK, first off let me tell you that I don't like at all the tone of your email. That being said, I agree that my view of -devel ports might be a bit personal and might not be shared by the majority of users. For this reason, I'll do as you suggest: - backport 3.6.0 into net-im/openfire - create a net-im/openfire-devel for 3.7.0.beta I hope this solves all your problems. Best Regards, --=20 Pietro Cerutti The FreeBSD Project gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0sOtAACgkQwMJqmJVx947iXQCdEBQL/HmGIztA85Si3iYLr1UX lBgAnjRViw2zZOQnMKYEOSqI1D4+/bvo =g2b8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tmoQ0UElFV5VgXgH--