From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 16:47:41 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1728B3E68C9 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from out03.mta.xmission.com (out03.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.233]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BsjZ41w7Tz4H5S; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebecca@bsdio.com) Received: from in02.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.52]) by out03.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kIx4K-0012re-F4; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:47:36 -0600 Received: from mta4.zcs.xmission.com ([166.70.13.68]:36492) by in02.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1kIx4J-0008IE-RK; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:47:36 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta4.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F10A5004CD; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:47:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mta4.zcs.xmission.com Received: from mta4.zcs.xmission.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta4.zcs.xmission.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ok6kuYripEpI; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.10.122] (c-174-52-16-57.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [174.52.16.57]) by mta4.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F0E950013B; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:47:35 -0600 (MDT) To: Cy Schubert , Ed Maste Cc: FreeBSD Current References: <202009171404.08HE4fZj007939@slippy.cwsent.com> From: Rebecca Cran Message-ID: <386a959f-7151-248f-68ab-dfbcefa38eb3@bsdio.com> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:47:34 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202009171404.08HE4fZj007939@slippy.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-XM-SPF: eid=1kIx4J-0008IE-RK; ; ; mid=<386a959f-7151-248f-68ab-dfbcefa38eb3@bsdio.com>; ; ; hst=in02.mta.xmission.com; ; ; ip=166.70.13.68; ; ; frm=rebecca@bsdio.com; ; ; spf=none X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.70.13.68 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rebecca@bsdio.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sa03.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,NICE_REPLY_A,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG,TooManyTo_001 autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5010] * 0.3 TooManyTo_001 Multiple "To" Header Recipients 2x (uncommon) * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa03 1397; IP=ok Body=1 Fuz1=1] [Fuz2=1] * -0.0 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa03 1397; IP=ok Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;Cy Schubert , Ed Maste X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 319 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.02 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 4.4 (1.4%), b_tie_ro: 3.1 (1.0%), parse: 1.23 (0.4%), extract_message_metadata: 4.8 (1.5%), get_uri_detail_list: 0.85 (0.3%), tests_pri_-1000: 2.2 (0.7%), tests_pri_-950: 1.11 (0.3%), tests_pri_-900: 0.89 (0.3%), tests_pri_-90: 125 (39.3%), check_bayes: 124 (38.8%), b_tokenize: 4.0 (1.3%), b_tok_get_all: 4.1 (1.3%), b_comp_prob: 1.18 (0.4%), b_tok_touch_all: 112 (35.0%), b_finish: 0.74 (0.2%), tests_pri_0: 169 (52.9%), check_dkim_signature: 0.40 (0.1%), check_dkim_adsp: 50 (15.7%), poll_dns_idle: 45 (14.0%), tests_pri_10: 1.70 (0.5%), tests_pri_500: 6 (1.8%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: Re: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system? X-Spam-Flag: No X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 05 May 2016 13:38:54 -0600) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BsjZ41w7Tz4H5S X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.45 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.965]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.04)[-1.043]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdio.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdio.com:s=xmission]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.52.16.57:received]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdio.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.04)[-1.039]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6315, ipnet:166.70.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[166.70.13.233:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:47:41 -0000 On 9/17/20 8:04 AM, Cy Schubert wrote: > > We should also deprecate the FTP client. > > I've been advocating removing FTP (and HTTP) from libfetch as well. People > should be using HTTPS only. (libfetch could support a plugin that might be > supplied by a port should someone be inclined to write one.) As an aside, are there any plans to remove the word "ftp" from the FreeBSD download sites. e.g. https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/12.1/ ? -- Rebecca Cran