From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 21 9: 7:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60EC37BABA for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:07:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id RAA20645 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:09:04 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id KAA04866 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:06:41 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA17622; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:07:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14551.44129.972535.210497@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:07:45 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) In-Reply-To: <13387.953657029@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <20000321121048.E49550@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> <13387.953657029@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, March 21, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > > Actually, the problem is that we ARE now doing good quality "dot-zero" > releases and all our old quotes about how bleeding edge they are now > comes back to haunt us. I challenge you to find anything about 4.0 > which is inherently less stable or usable than, say, 3.4. We've > come a long way and probably need to stop scaring people off from > our releases. We didn't do a 30 day code freeze this time for nothing > you know! > > - Jordan I would have to agree with Jordan here. Of course with the plethora of PC hardware combinations out there (with some of the marginally designed components people pick up) it is impossible for the developers to make sure 100% of everything "works as expected (TM)." I went through the 2.2.8->3.0 transition and now I've installed 4.0-RC, RC2, and RC3 on the same hardware that I did the 2.2.8->3.0 transition on and I can say without a doubt that 4.0 is a *much* better ".0" release than 3.0 was. This "crypto" thing is tripping people up, but it's just a matter of RTFM, not instability of the software. As with everything, YMMV .... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message