From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 24 03:54:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44FC16A4B3 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanner1.dht.dk (scanner1.dht.dk [195.41.82.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DC0344003 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djarnis@scanner1.dht.dk) Received: (qmail 16032 invoked by uid 0); 24 Sep 2003 10:06:14 -0000 Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (216.136.204.119) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 16:27:01 -0000 Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BD8584EB; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF43D16A505; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7561C16A4BF; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-107-253.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.107.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA143FE0; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CB166CFA; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C34207CA; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:25:02 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tadimeti Keshav Message-ID: <20030923162502.GA52398@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030923045948.GA50083@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030923160459.79041.qmail@web86004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030923160459.79041.qmail@web86004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports on a CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:54:13 -0000 --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:04:59PM +0100, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > > What are you really asking here? First you ask for > > ports (but the > > ports collection is on CD1), then you say debian > > includes packages on > > their CDs (so does FreeBSD). > >=20 > Well, remember that the ports collection is nothing > but the skeleton that can connect to the internet and > fetch the source files that you can compile. What I > was asking for is the facility to have all the sources > of all the ports on the CD. (SO you needn't connect to > the internet to build your machine). The full set of distfiles takes up 15GB, i.e. about 21 CDs. Is that really practical? ;-) See however the FreeBSD PowerPak sold by FreeBSDMall.com. > > > I think the FreeBSD distribution would be better > > off > > > having all ports on the 2 additional CDs rather > > than > > > have packages. > >=20 > > Now you say "ports rather than packages", when both > > are shipped. > >=20 > > Can you please clarify what you are asking? > >=20 > > Kris > Debian ships all DEB packages on the CDs. I doubt it. > FreeBSD only > bundles some packages. For example, JDK is a port > while vim is a package. JDK may not be packaged due to the restrictive license on the software. The same is true for most of the other ports that are not packaged (other reasons include that the port is broken or forbidden because it contains a security vulnerability). Also, a full package set is about 5GB (for i386), which would take about 7 CDs. Again, not really practical. > Would it not be better to cut > down on several packages of large size and ship the CD > with the sources needed to compile JDK etc. No, because we would be sued by Sun. Kris --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/cHPeWry0BWjoQKURAjOkAJ9RTjSBGdHvWA4y8luM3QH+PAkUGQCdEYe9 TurfV4TK4IIwxV2tuf4Qxto= =tJOB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J--