From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 16 12:33:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [63.75.111.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C4237BC8C; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA90817; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:32:20 -0800 From: Jamie Norwood To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Oleg Ogurok , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: which branch? Message-ID: <20000316123220.A90801@mushhaven.net> References: <20000316122126.A90676@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So really, then, it is only recently that people should even have been moving from 2.2.x to 3.x? This doesn't seem to make sense to me. So we are selling an unstable version in the stores? One we don't recommend normal people install? Jamie On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 12:31:19PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Jamie Norwood wrote: > > > -STABLE is supposed to be safe to put on a server. If 4.x is .not. yet > > safe... Why is it in -STABLE? This kinda bugs me as it fairly well defeats > > the point of having a -STABLE if it isn't, in fact, stable. > > -STABLE means the branch which only gets minimal changes, and is > *intended* to be stable, safe code. However even -stable breaks sometimes, > and at the start of a new branch which has had as many major code changes > as 4.0 did, there are bound to be problems to be resolved. The same > situation existed with 3.0, which only really "stabilized" about 3.1 or > 3.2, and with 2.2.0. > > Basically the recommendation has always been that the code only truly > settles down after a few releases along the branch and if you really can't > afford to deal with problems you should wait for 4.3 or even 4.4 before > installing the 4.x series (we used to jump to a .5 release, e.g. 2.2.2 -> > 2.2.5, when it was considered the branch had become truly conservatively > stable and safe, but we don't do this any more, so the .3 release is > usually a reasonable equivalent). > > However, there are a lot of people who still run 3.0 or 3.1 systems > without problems, so the "early deployers" certainly don't always find > themselves in trouble. > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message