From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 11:22:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7A316A4B3 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp11.wxs.nl (smtp11.wxs.nl [195.121.6.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F85F43FB1 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp11.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HNB009WRS5TE8@smtp11.wxs.nl> for advocacy@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:17:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from Alex.lan (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9PIHrEq005426; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:17:53 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff@Alex.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Alex.lan (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id h9PIHqlb005425; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:17:52 +0200 (CEST envelope-from akruijff) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:17:52 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20031025054925.GA3501@igloo.linux.gr> To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-id: <20031025181752.GC4914@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <20031024021720.31654.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> <20031024124745.GA30536@dds.nl> <20031025054925.GA3501@igloo.linux.gr> cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Learning to Walk: A Linux User Migrates to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:22:26 -0000 On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:49:25AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2003-10-24 14:47, Alex de Kruijff wrote: > >On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:17:20PM -0700, peter lageotakes wrote: > >> This is the follow up (part 2) to Babe in the Woods: A > >> Linux User Migrates to FreeBSD. > >> > >> Interesting article. However I disagree with the views > >> about handbook being written at the admin. level (and > >> more). The article could be more positive. > >> > >> http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=269 > > > > I say this is prity positive considering his previous article about > > 5.0. I feel that he gives _his_ fair point of view on FreeBSD. > > Strainge that top didn' run, i didn't had this happening to me. > > This is very likely a result of more serious problems with the /dev > directory of the installation (like the missing /dev/null described in > the article). > > I'll agree that it is a rather fair article, despite my reservations > regarding the problems described. I've installed 4.8-REL a lot of times > but didn't have any of the same problems. The fact that someone else > did, which is probably unsurprising for newcomers to FreeBSD, doesn't > mean that I'm super smart or that the authors of the article are silly > either. The installation process depends on very scrutinous attention > to details whose significance isn't yet very apparent when one is a > FreeBSD newbie. This is what the documentation team is trying to help > about by writing the Handbook and the rest of the docs. > > Let's hope that the quality of the existing documentation and the future > efforts of the doc team make problematic cases like the one described in > the article less and less frequent :-) All 100% positive articles can be very nice for the ego. However this doesn't help in making the product better. You certenly don't want everybody to write about how great thay feel FreeBSD is because of pressure of the FreeBSD community. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/