From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 18 16:10:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002EF106568D for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shurd@sasktel.net) Received: from proton.sasknet.sk.ca (proton.sasknet.sk.ca [142.165.20.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56A68FC20 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (proton [127.0.0.1]) by proton.sasknet.sk.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with SMTP id o1IFrHZh014579 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:56:59 -0600 Received: from bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca (bgmpOMR1.sasknet.sk.ca [142.165.72.22]) by proton.sasknet.sk.ca with ESMTP id m17srv224-1 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:56:59 -0600 Received: from ace.hurd.local (outgoing.bbsdev.net [76.202.204.46]) by bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca (SaskTel eMessaging Service) with ESMTPA id <0KY100BF6OAXLY10@bgmpomr1.sasknet.sk.ca> for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:56:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:56:57 -0800 From: Stephen Hurd In-reply-to: <4B7D1F0A.6010804@infracaninophile.co.uk> To: Matthew Seaman Message-id: <4B7D6349.603@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20100218100632.GA60258@comcast.net> <87zl36etg6.fsf@kobe.laptop> <4B7D1F0A.6010804@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20091205 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2010-02-18_10:2010-02-06, 2010-02-18, 2010-02-18 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1002180108 Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LinuxBSDos.com article X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:10:17 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Saying "there's this really great firewall on PC-BSD, but the > configuration app doesn't let you use it very well" doesn't really > strike me as a positive statement about PC-BSD. Perhaps there's an "I > know what I'm doing" button somewhere yet to be mentioned which enables > managing more complicated stuff? > That's actually a very good comparison to the best Linux distros... the only tricks that PC-BSD missed are moving the configuration files into some unfindable place and re-generating them from a different file that the GUI generates in yet a a third place on every boot. Once the ability to tweak it if you know what you want and how to use the software is removed and then it will be the equal of the best of Linux distros.