From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 16 17:15:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6DB16A4E1; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A18943D46; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:15:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net ([12.207.12.9]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20060816171533m910087pf1e>; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:15:48 +0000 Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7GHFSYu064123; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:15:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k7GHFPND064122; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:15:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:15:25 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Yar Tikhiy Message-ID: <20060816171524.GA63928@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20060815040736.2f85f090.drl@MyBSD.org.my> <9405D801-3435-419A-9541-E1A9B2CF26D2@lassitu.de> <20060816081130.GB81271@comp.chem.msu.su> <20060816145419.GB62485@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20060816155844.GA85503@comp.chem.msu.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060816155844.GA85503@comp.chem.msu.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: drl@MyBSD.org.my, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Stefan Bethke , thompsa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default route (IPv4) demolished by destroying clone (gif/gre) interface X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:15:49 -0000 --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 07:58:44PM +0400, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 09:54:19AM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 10:23:13AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote: > > >=20 > > > Ouch. Don't ppp(8), OpenVPN etc. destroy the tun interface they're = =20 > > > using when they exit? Flushing all routes then would be rather =20 > > > harmful. I'm glad I haven't updated to a newer -stable yet then :-) > >=20 > > In general, no since tun interfaces can not be destroyed. >=20 > Did you mean "in particular"? :-) >=20 > The problem can be triggered by destroying any interface that can > be destroyed. Just imagine getting rid of a defunct gif tunnel on > a remote router, or removing an unused vlan, and totally losing > connectivity to the router due to its default route having been > flushed. The scenario still can be quite unpleasant. I'd rather > change the default for $removable_route_flush to NO and let the > kernel choose which routes should be flushed upon the physical > ejection or software destruction of an interface. Note that this > doesn't include static_routes_${ifn}, which are handled separately > by pccard_ether_stop(). Agreed. That code shouldn't be on by default. I've disabled in it HEAD and will MFC in a few days. As another poster said, I'm not even sure it should exist as an option. -- Brooks --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE41KsXY6L6fI4GtQRAsfQAJwMRw6do/EH1QYyHvjyoJGkGjGGWQCdHD8P 45jNfWVh3MO/30Kjlutx+K0= =Zjao -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e--