From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 12:37:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F501065672 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7FD8FC15 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dagger.cc.vt.edu (dagger.cc.vt.edu [198.82.163.114]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o68CasEA007606; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:36:54 -0400 Received: from auth3.smtp.vt.edu (EHLO auth3.smtp.vt.edu) ([198.82.161.152]) by dagger.cc.vt.edu (MOS 4.1.8-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id KEB73950; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 08:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gromit.tower.lib.vt.edu (gromit.tower.lib.vt.edu [128.173.51.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by auth3.smtp.vt.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o68CarA6002700 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:36:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 08:36:53 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02AECC43-87DC-4B16-B3F4-81186CA69073@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> References: <4C34C5DE.7040007@aldan.algebra.com> <20100707185928.GA16180@icarus.home.lan> <4C34E0E6.9070801@aldan.algebra.com> To: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 198.82.161.152 auth3.smtp.vt.edu paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu 5 none X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=neutral-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=MAILHURDLE SPF TAG X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=dagger.cc.vt.edu X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020204.4C35C666.00E8,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2009-09-22 00:05:22, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Cc: re@freebsd.org, "Mikhail T." , FreeBSD Stable , tom@hur.st, Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: 8.x grudges X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:37:33 -0000 On Jul 7, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mikhail T. = wrote: >> 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???????(??): >>>>=20 >>>> FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement = (and >>>> thus not an "option") -- the kernel-config files, that worked = with >>>> 7.x, break without this option in them (in addition to all the >>>> nuisance, that's documented in UPDATING -- which, somehow, = makes >>>> the breakage acceptable). config(8) would not warn about this, = but >>>> kernel build fails. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> We don't use this option (meaning it's removed from our kernels). = It's >>> definitely not required. All it does is ensure your kernel can >>> comprehend executables/binaries built on 7.x. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under = 7.x. The >> kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined), = without the >> COMPAT_FREEBSD7 option. Try it for yourself... >=20 > options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory > options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues > options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores >=20 > Those require COMPAT_FREEBSD7.=20 I have an FreeBSD/amd64 8.1-PRERELEASE system with all COMPAT_FREEBSDx = options except COMPAT_FREEBSD32 commented out in my kernel config file = and it builds fine. So, unless I am misunderstanding you, I don't think = "options SYSV{SHM,MSG,SEM}" requires COMPAT_FREEBSD7. Cheers, Paul.