From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 1 23:46:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3352DED4745 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 23:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic312-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic312-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.191.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B977F6E4AD for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 23:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: nfH8.coVM1loeMFIIhG.eJFH9k0iSDN_fzaHvb3vkH2ezaWUMfBI4JR3I8qGd0Y of9nyU6r0U2lHGzS2tzlwCoQVnuNAy46Kr614cqg6vudyb.WtAPEitOpMnLxdPPUJxdb7gbO69nr ihMMQiGnmCQYkMnfweGsbimM3u25AHW6x4oxCQdtPYUs3CuBPXBVUulUUK0kvfdSpod3YeY52CbM 03n6fcgfX10wI3ghm6.vxLoEmOaYE657DRxL8_MpiyYTfQREY0bgSvdvtSmdjKNTewMk1DJNQWNj UxW5C9DsTVnnmjY2VSaNU3JDj2gNr5me0amEkpKSWs3HE4yRcSeegtwOPmGMmYtCIUANSvg.DNfP eHAJNwJjuCo26vsS5084Vdfj43HGXSfeE6Hp2fVzcZemFOUgYO60getLeJEtZYUEPFGL1OHO3rvD NsiRn4N7qGo_tKvBmGMy815O7qbbJpx6KvCthj3qFAi_i8_Fs2o6zmiQeAYgREtkd_F4fah0XUWy LlEklJLRcq7hKQSK0s4Q1dDL_pXWxUsGZqtg- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Feb 2018 23:46:19 +0000 Received: from smtp235.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) ([10.218.253.206]) by smtp413.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 0863e17cc356e7de0df688d5422c76d8 for ; Thu, 01 Feb 2018 23:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Response to Meltdown and Spectre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23154.11945.856955.523027@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5A726B60.7040606@gmail.com> <92120E50-19A7-4A44-90DF-505243D77259@kreme.com> From: Paul Pathiakis Message-ID: <71736b45-cbff-36d6-81ee-8e945375779c@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 18:36:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2018 23:46:26 -0000 Yes, please explain. AMD stated up front that they weren't vulnerable to 1 and were almost 0-potential for the others. Just a plain better design. They, then, reiterated the very same thing. From what I've seen, AMD has a done a good job of being on top of their 'non-issue'. P. On 02/01/2018 18:04, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:48 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > >> the trouble is that AMD's behavior has been at least as bad as Intel's, if >> not worse, in regards to Meltdown, >> > Can you explain what provoked this assertion? >