From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Aug 30 02:02:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1076E6658; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46KN5y54r1z4WSX; Fri, 30 Aug 2019 02:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id 3WF9i34D3sAGk3WFBitobe; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:02:29 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=WeVylHpX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FmdZ9Uzk2mMA:10 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=kjVYAFG_BOeK_iIailIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88E38761; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x7U22RlP087313; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x7U22RaV087308; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201908300202.x7U22RaV087308@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu cc: Cy Schubert , Kristof Provost , Ian Lepore , FreeBSD Hackers , araujo@freebsd.org, fcp@freebsd.org, Konstantin Belousov , Li-Wen Hsu Subject: Re: FCP 20190401-ci_policy: CI policy In-reply-to: <20190830015805.GA16894@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20190829114057.GZ71821@kib.kiev.ua> <28934eb780342605090bf365ac3a2e0d522256f5.camel@freebsd.org> <201908300135.x7U1Zfh7067241@slippy.cwsent.com> <20190830015805.GA16894@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Comments: In-reply-to Steve Kargl message dated "Thu, 29 Aug 2019 18:58:05 -0700." 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I notice commits tend to slow down during weekends. I > > suspect people who work on FreeBSD at $COMPANY for a living treat it as a > > job, which it is. However this should be considered. > > > > A committer, who works for a $COMPANY and has no intention of > looking at the mailing lists or CI reports until Monday, should > not commit on Firday. What ever happen to common sense? I've worked with and do work with people like that. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.