From owner-freebsd-current Sat Dec 7 12:23:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA09110 for current-outgoing; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 12:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA09101 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 12:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA17268 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 21:23:31 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA22838 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 21:23:30 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id UAA22067 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:32:46 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612071932.UAA22067@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/include utmp.h To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 20:32:45 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "[?KOI8-R?]" at "Dec 7, 96 09:19:23 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As [?KOI8-R?] wrote: > > Personally, I'm in favour of a migratory program even if only for wtmp > > conversion since some of us use the accumulated data for customer > > accounting, > > If we plan to add new fields like hostid, even no migratory program > is possible. Best migratory program is No. You can always fill the fields that were not present previously with blanks or nul's. But at least you won't lose the history then. > cp /dev/null /var/log/wtmp That's unacceptable. Maybe you could do it in a L*** distribution :), but not in FreeBSD. True multiuser sites (like ISPs) might be very eager in keeping the old login history, even for years back. The migratory program is not a big deal at all, the bigger problem is indeed to once and finally start a True upgrade strategy. By now it's merely patchwork what we've got... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)