From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 23 15:36:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22058 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:26:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22016 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id AAA21537; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 00:25:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id C68DC155B; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 23:55:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 23:55:05 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: Drew Baxter , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NLMs (Was: Re: This just in: Microsoft/Sears Merger) Message-ID: <19981223235505.A29194@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Drew Baxter , chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.1.19981223005658.00b44ee0@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Wed, Dec 23, 1998 at 04:58:17PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#4871 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai: > is still so close to DOS that even NLMs (NetWare Loadable Modules) are > still 8.3 That is the least of the problems with NLM. The two main ones IMO are that they run in ring 0 (making them closer to KLD modules than libs) and that they're a mess (all the dependancies, order of loading and so on) like Winlose DLLs. Example: we had a panic on our main Netware at work two days ago. It was the SNMP module (why the Hell do this thing have to run in ring 0 !?). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Nov 8 01:22:20 CET 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message