Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 00:22:06 +0200 From: Riccardo Lombardi <ric.lombardi@gmail.com> To: Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com> Cc: freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EC2 AMI size of Freebsd 12 (and maybe a feature request) Message-ID: <CAAr7tvGdJH4QofgcrbntfaY2BX1z458J0QQnouxjYhyE_cPHkw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <010001748ea604b7-3edaf425-d677-4a88-90fd-791d869c9a20-000000@email.amazonses.com> References: <CAAr7tvFrBuNWK2t2c1z3EGuU%2BhvhUjZ-s5FwkeAa3XvEj5QFTw@mail.gmail.com> <010001748ea604b7-3edaf425-d677-4a88-90fd-791d869c9a20-000000@email.amazonses.com>
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El mar., 15 sept. 2020 a las 0:04, Colin Percival (<cperciva@tarsnap.com>) escribi=C3=B3: > On 2020-09-14 08:35, Riccardo Lombardi wrote: > > First of all, thank you for all your efforts for making FreeBSD usable = in > > EC2 environments, and sorry for my english. > > Your English seems fine to me! > Thanks! > > > I'm mainly a hobby web developer, with limited (end-user) experience in > > Unix systems. > > I recently switched to FreeBSD for my web server and noticed that the > > "out-of-the-box" FreeBSD 12 AMI in AWS uses a lot of disk space (3.8Gb > > using the df -h command) in comparison with other Linux distributions, > > which usually start with 1-1.5Gb disk space. > > I also wanted to point out that the size of the FreeBSD 11 AMI is > strangely > > quite smaller (2.4G). > > The largest directories I could find in FreeBSD 12 are: > > /usr/lib/debug: 1.5G > > /var/db/freebsd-update: 508M > > You're seeing two things here: > 1. FreeBSD 12 has far more space used for debug symbols than FreeBSD 11 > (and > FreeBSD 13 has even more -- over 2 GB). > 2. When you launched FreeBSD 12 it downloaded updates -- including kernel > updates and the associated updated debug symbols. Assuming the FreeBSD 1= 1 > you launched was 11.4, it didn't have nearly as many updates to download. > Yes, this is probably what happened, since I tried it a few weeks ago, these should be the last versions. > > > My aim (and I suppose this could be useful for many developers and EC2 > > users) was originally to shrink the AMI size by eliminating things that > are > > not necessary in a production environment (maybe the kernel-debug tools= ). > > Unfortunately I don't think i have enough knowledge to make my own cust= om > > light AMI. > > > > So, if this could be useful for the community, and I think so, it would > be > > very nice to see some of the following things / features: > > - First of all check it there's some problem with the disk size of the > > FreeBSD 12 (compared with the 11, maybe there are old unused libraries > from > > the update), and eventually publish a new, "clean", AMI > > - OR/AND maybe implement a "lightweight" version of the FreeBSD AMI, > > without some non essential components. > > I'm seriously considering providing "minimal" AMIs without debug symbols > (and > maybe other stuff; I'm not sure if there's anything else worth excluding)= . > Right now this and other "flavoured FreeBSDs" is blocked by Amazon not > enabling the SSM Parameter Store for FreeBSD to register AMIs. > > Thank you, this is really great news. May I suggest, if Amazon's reaction time is still too slow or tending to infinity, the "CentOS" way. I don't know the actual reason, but their AMIs are not listed on the official Marketplace, they just publish the AMI-IDs on their website, just like any community AMI. Thanks again and best regards. > > > -- > Colin Percival > Security Officer Emeritus, FreeBSD | The power to serve > Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoi= d >
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