From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 23 18:37:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BCB1520F00 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 18:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E70E680B4 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 18:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2A3ED1520EFE; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 18:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176451520EFD for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 18:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CD0D680B2 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 18:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1550947059; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=k6arl7n0Y4JYOiBEq3xRG0ECdwc=; b=NmDNsByi+0OASr6SAofs/5p53TBi3NBNq4mMx8ygZjf9MwUZilbjW8hW+dQT4kXQ 0IL9227prYRVDUdhLU1WnffWYTdoqx5ZrvlGKdH8N9oiaGJ/sBqo8yw34JM0Slef KB4Ptv/Uw10HybEBW+J8vuFTLOGSMb2GkAqGR7U+Uciv2jBAvlIDSkfBJIq4a7YL btN+3/5gQqB0rbpaFlwpkR3Gd6SeXNP4KMAr0jehS+WxUah9uY6dy87IwYWM8IV5 IyhmVMRqHODOXoGGr1DXGcp18gmN4k31yOptGA1RhEtOhKqrPHYIDr+Tdkb2QGnY BKKUiKJzI7y1y8V/jshodQ==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QcwkhYTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=CFTnQlWoA9kA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=-vZEYeg_qCjCJsajlHQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:24017] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 41/3E-48547-2F2917C5; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 13:37:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23665.37618.281478.64929@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 13:37:38 -0500 From: Robert Huff To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: size of debug symbols In-Reply-To: References: <46040D79-BA05-43F5-9213-67094355B68A@cretaforce.gr> <23664.7723.844456.222198@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9CD0D680B2 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 18:37:47 -0000 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= writes: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 11:07-0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > I can no longer build large programs - e.g. www/webkit*, devel/llvm* > > - using "WITH_DEBUG=yes" because it will inevitably consume 22+ > > gbytes of disk space. (I complained about this before, and had no > > answer as to what was going on or how to fix it.) This did not > > happen under 11.*. > > What happens if you confine WITH_DEBUG=yes to /etc/src.conf? This > way it should only affect base unless I'm mistaken. I was about to say "I expect that would work.". But: given the size of the kernel, it is a fact not in evidence it won't have the same problems. It would also leave me with applications that are ... difficult ... to debug using traditional methods. (And more generally, I am concerned something like this can change to such a degree either without being noticed or without being documented. (_Is_ there documentation, other than complaints on the mailing lists? I don't see anything in src/UPDATING, ports/UPDATING, or (after a quick skim) in the Handbook. I'd love to be wrong here.) One of my selling points for FreeBSD is the high quality of the documentation; this puts that in doubt.) Respectfully, Robert Huff