From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 24 01:50:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0D016A41C for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 01:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5FB43D1F for ; Tue, 24 May 2005 01:50:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6F3BC513D7; Mon, 23 May 2005 18:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:51:42 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joel Message-ID: <20050524015142.GA13505@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050523210818.GC823@zaphod.nitro.dk> <3528.172.16.0.199.1116884292.squirrel@172.16.0.1> <20050524102414.3A16.REES@ddcom.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050524102414.3A16.REES@ddcom.co.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 01:50:56 -0000 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:45:48AM +0900, Joel wrote: > Random comment from the peanut gallery, but ... >=20 > > >> Thanks for the info guys. Does this "security support" also mean that > > >> current ports will be compatible with the release? > > > > > > No, there are no guarantees about that. The ports/ people generally > > > try to make things work with older releases, but there are no gurante= es > > > there. It's simply too much work to make such guarantees, and this is > > > after all an volunteer project (for most parts anyway). See also > > > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ for the "official" statement. > >=20 > > Right, i didnt think so. Debian is a volunteer project too, and their > > packaging system supports all of their branches. I guess i should look > > into rolling my own packages, to be sure. And yes, i realize that we ju= st > > dont have an infrastructure for something like this. >=20 > I'm thinking that, if a company really doesn't have the infrastructure, > there are several good options. You mention Linux. MacOSX is closer to > the BSDs than Linux in many ways, tends to have relatively long-term > stability, and you can pay Apple for a rather high level of support if > you join their developer's program. >=20 > The best option, however, may be to invest in the infrastructure -- a > long term relationship with a qualified contractor, or even an employee > whose primary duty would be to (learn how to) do the heavy lifting on > backporting and upgrading. That way, the OS itself becomes more a part > of the company's resources. Didn't someone announce a few months ago that they were going to work on supporting ports with older releases? I'm sure they'd welcome support, whether financial, material or otherwise. Kris --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCkoitWry0BWjoQKURAh5ZAKC0GeULOcq3qY63Y/0biYqkz4xh2wCdHyMd qp2V0a8TQ+sdDRKrOiDiylI= =8yBM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu--