From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:22:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D178D16A4D6 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:22:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7B1C43D1D for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:22:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 22048 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Nov 2004 21:22:19 -0000 Received: from pD95D8432.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.132.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 22:22:19 +0100 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from [192.168.8.4] (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATLMB54026015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:22:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <41AB9302.9050803@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:22:10 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Long References: <200411291819.iATIJkf5027124@realtime.exit.com> <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <41AB6F4F.4050908@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beastie/ how about Mozilla? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:22:22 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > Frank Mayhar wrote: > >> Jon Noack wrote: > [Beasty-Bikeshed] I'll just cut right to end of the bikeshed: _Screw_ the mascot. In fact, screw all the mascots (plural). This is a free software project. FreeBSD can do with ANY logo and ANY mascot, and it could just as well do WITHOUT any logo and any mascot. Beasty is utterly irrelevant. So is Tux, or the OpenDarwin mascot or the OpenBSD Blowfish or the NetBSD Beastypile^W Flag. The complaints of people being offended or annoyed by whatever mascot and logo we have are also utterly irrelevant. It's all open-source, you can easily patch out anything you don't like. However, things start to become ugly when utterly irrelevant complaints about utterly irrelevant logos make committers disable USEFUL functionality, like the boot-menu. We NEED the boot-menu, we don't need any kind of logo in it. So please, Scott, put back the menu and just delete the ascii art or at least confirm that the menu is going to reappear in some way or the other. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org