From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 13:08:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39707E87F71 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tommi.pernila@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22d.google.com (mail-qk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E512C6C519; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tommi.pernila@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id x7so9152588qkb.0; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:08:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=LIy83D434l1I+LwasRk06Re0/FGjEXWy5mbtpdciQcI=; b=uBf4g+9vTei9Plt5fC0V0NRcxmK/PfsPZ9SpmPE7PkYECMlq+oXAX7rRfO9i1cZfZx gIPRVNK71/PBMvKZyT27Fr1hoDfojwbLKfCuomVCIKF8KstYrD3Osas/NXhhoi6+CeAw KN38fdmNr7C3SeuPSQknaJWd2jMFgxd9w0O9S2QQWJWy/6z2uceyZ3zwIc0Md2oGkeNs vzH4Dx2UtA6Z97yOD5T0eQvT8naVWAFWNDNXIcJbwO4Gl3XDZc00pCLZ3024Q7UzklV3 m1Ja+/OIBayUCcKE0KEQuV6AkovNgPSBqhC2nG9Fudn8UPassZU9B1Xhh+1JAIAJuy5F v4Yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LIy83D434l1I+LwasRk06Re0/FGjEXWy5mbtpdciQcI=; b=lJOj17nfGH7IrBb2PvTYDGHFA1YdvguZVGo+yC0MPsDIMzQ6V08qrapsku1HO0DOtO aMI8C/jT0UWFX+VynaaaJ+JwzAL24hL9V2ZaJko+aH4xH+MWoitUlNXL3DyuvzeP+cb1 i5RGY4nJbXocAWbzhHzr8no95SuObhStwG4LdOzz99W9e6pWJlwaoLQfhAo2+uv3Jzjd UHfpyhb1ujj4MRiAbXIQoaS4GqpgSjvid/Ths1UJCn4MBg3mc54PE0502ofLB1mvxytI TFWsnLbBQfy4JBGgh76YEyTQ/cSeCihyrWuclp8c4B2Oi6cLL4BTl9IdIwCfFqXRz8TO Myig== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mL7UYcHR4tHLFkW9vu9y1pibi1brSxzdQiY4X3S86zXZvftEykO 51iqlHGuugUlWOo0msIc1cytOP1WB7ocrq/KPt5yMA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouaEMPyxrWVSS2enYDjBX+WvSvcMrC1LAZgw1ty4fCq5mAsNeSfjTUSWmUtRisZAjiWIaYNbItYlzTBNuqoThI= X-Received: by 10.55.221.20 with SMTP id n20mr9777957qki.181.1513775323902; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:08:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tommi.pernila@gmail.com Received: by 10.200.27.41 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:08:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <47CA1ED8-A95E-4BD8-99EE-639AE466B9CB@grem.de> References: <20171220123250.hzbxaz6qbfb2wzrh@ivaldir.net> <47CA1ED8-A95E-4BD8-99EE-639AE466B9CB@grem.de> From: Tommi Pernila Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 15:08:42 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2sgyUd3plDehqoSTOBVQXZiKFTY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default To: Michael Gmelin Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Johannes Lundberg , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 13:08:45 -0000 Looking forward to testing Wayland more on FreeBSD. So yes please! -Tommi On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > On 20. Dec 2017, at 13:32, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:20:20AM +0000, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state > >> having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the > >> end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland > >> enabled. > >> > >> libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers > >> from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg > >> packages. (might be something more that I missed) > >> > >> Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with > >> flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices > >> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no > >> escaping that. > >> > >> Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but > >> access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it. > >> > >> If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are > >> already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window > >> server. > >> > >> What do you think? > >> > > > > I agree on that, we should activate wayland everywhere by defualt, as it > does > > not prevent at all from having a fully fonctionnal regular X working as > well. > > > > All wayland option should be on, and this as nothing to do with flavors > :) > > > > Please do it :) > > > > Best regards, > > Bapt > > I add my "vote" from the X11 list: Yes please, I had exactly that problem > yesterday. > > Best, > Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >