From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 22:29:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D7237B404 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35A343F85 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F27167522; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:29:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6G5T4Mv026328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:29:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Larry Rosenman Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:28:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <28540000.1058312375@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> <3F149C5B.5020503@gmx.net> <83710000.1058317016@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> In-Reply-To: <83710000.1058317016@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_gKOF/XTWtKEH6Pp"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200307160729.04442.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 05:29:09 -0000 --Boundary-02=_gKOF/XTWtKEH6Pp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 16 July 2003 02:56, Larry Rosenman wrote: > --On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 02:29:15 +0200 Michael Nottebrock > > wrote: > > Larry Rosenman wrote: > >> Out of curiosity, should Konsole make a utmp entry? > >> > >> xterm makes one, but KDE3.1's Konsole doesn't. > > > > That's expected behaviour (of Konsole). It actually does make > > utmp-entries in Linux, but requires the "utempter" utility/library to do > > so, which isn't ported. > > I guess the next question is what would it take to port utempter? I'm going to check in the near future. It is only because of your question= =20 that I noticed this feature at all - previously I thought there's just no w= ay=20 to do it. However, from a quick glance it seems utempter is a rather obscur= e=20 RedHat-hack that everyone (in Linuxland) packages, but whose sources are=20 rather hidden - I need to investigate more. > It's annoying me, because I've got a guest on my system helping debug > ACPI, and occasionally want to be able to talk him, and I have to have a > real xterm up. The general opinion of the KDE developers has always been that it's not up = to=20 xterm or any terminal to log in a user into utmp but to the session manager= ,=20 i.e. xdm or kdm. If you choose to run kdm, its default configuration will l= og=20 a user in to utmp - if you prefer to startup X11 with startx however, there= 's=20 no way but letting the terminal do it. I guess that there was some vocal=20 demand for konsole to do that from the startx-crowd - and since the vocal=20 crowds in KDE are usually Linux users, that's probably the reason why someo= ne=20 came up with using utempter as a fix. =2D-=20 Michael Nottebrock \ KDE on FreeBSD \ ,ww =20 \ --- \ ,wWWCybaWW_)=20 \ http://freebsd.kde.org \ `WSheepW' free \ II II node --Boundary-02=_gKOF/XTWtKEH6Pp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/FOKgXhc68WspdLARAsleAJ0fo6MMZ0nTI/kMy4ZnkzPZSeFUrgCeOC9Q qxECu6MPj0SUpBB8DqlzqBg= =80So -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_gKOF/XTWtKEH6Pp--