From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 5 22:39:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E785416A4FE for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from res241015.resnet.wsu.edu (res241015.resnet.wsu.edu [134.121.241.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA04143FF3 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james_jacobsen@lycos.co.uk) Received: from res241015.resnet.wsu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h965cEoG078790 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james_jacobsen@lycos.co.uk) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:38:13 -0700 From: James Jacobsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031006053813.GE22536@res241015.resnet.wsu.edu> References: <27DDB356-F790-11D7-9174-003065838A88@mulle-kybernetik.com> <20031006030656.GK5283@dan.emsphone.com> <16256.57227.924291.290786@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20031006033200.GL5283@dan.emsphone.com> <20031006042751.GA85685@res241015.resnet.wsu.edu> <16256.62127.618353.861297@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20031006052042.GA22536@res241015.resnet.wsu.edu> <20031006053109.GM5283@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Format=Flowed; DelSp=Yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20031006053109.GM5283@dan.emsphone.com> (from dnelson@allantgroup.com on Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 22:31:09 -0700) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.0.15 Lines: 47 Subject: Re: malloc() behavior (was: Pointer please) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:39:07 -0000 You learn something new every day(probably not how to spell). I'm not a very experienced programmer. I actual did not know about those debugging tools. Thanks. :) --James On 10/05/03 22:31:09, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Oct 05), James Jacobsen said: > > On 10/05/03 21:42:23, Robert Huff wrote: > > >James Jacobsen writes: > > >> It does not matter what freebsd does, C does not require that > > >> malloc initialize space according to Kernighan and Ritchie. > > > > > >I knew that, and agree depending on a particular behavior is bad > > >programming practice. That said, there's a lot of "bad > programmers" > > >out there .... > > > > What's really bad, is that freebsd could potentally change there > > behavor down the line. Its probably dictated by the way kernel > > dezined, meaning they may do whats the cheapist. I would. If they > > do its go to lead to some weird behavior. :-) > > There's nothing bad about it. FreeBSD follows the standards. The > debugging flags simply change what the undefined behaviour is. If > you > malloc a block of memory, you cannot rely on what data it currently > contains. FreeBSD lets you zero it, fill it with a set value, or > leave > it. > > Programs exhibiting weird behaviour under any of those three cases > are > broken. Most debugging mallocs will trigger it, purify will probably > catch it (never used it), and valgrind under Linux will definitely > catch it. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >