From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 08:59:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CA837B401 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsl093-019-250.msp1.dsl.speakeasy.net (dsl093-019-250.msp1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.19.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8730343F93 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@jocose.org) Received: (qmail 54530 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2003 16:59:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jocose.org) (10.0.0.198) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Apr 2003 16:59:00 -0000 Message-ID: <3E8B16ED.1090300@jocose.org> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:59:25 -0600 From: Peter Schultz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030226 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing Sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 16:59:02 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On 02-Apr-2003 Peter Schultz wrote: > >>I'm sorry for beating a dead horse. A guy and I from tcbug were just >>trying to fix his postfix installation, he does not know what happened, >>it just stopped working. There would not have been a problem if >>sendmail wasn't tied into the system so closely. I'm just hoping core >>will say, "submit a working solution and it will be done," so that >>there's a little inspiration here. >> >>Pete... > > > First, core@ is not the appropriate body for that type of request. > Both current@ and arch@ are much better targets. I understand, thanks for clarifying. > Second, is NO_SENDMAIL + the postfix port inadequate? > I guess. I was helping him on #tcbug this morning, and he certainly missed something somewhere between the two. He claimed it "just stopped working." I don't know what all he did, but he was sure going crazy trying to fix it. I helped him get around the problem, but I couldn't help but think it would be nice for FreeBSD administrators to have a smoother solution. How about requiring a decision at install time, during the final configuration: [x] sendmail ... (default) [ ] postfix ... [ ] exim ... [ ] qmail ... [ ] none (caution: desktop users only, insecure use of syslog) Pete...