From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 23 06:04:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA10410 for current-outgoing; Thu, 23 May 1996 06:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10405 for ; Thu, 23 May 1996 06:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thurston.eng.umd.edu (thurston.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.206]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12558; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by thurston.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18339; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 09:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@thurston.eng.umd.edu To: faried nawaz cc: freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: editors In-Reply-To: <199605230746.AAA11558@selway.cs.uidaho.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 May 1996, faried nawaz wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote... > > On Wed, 22 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > May I suggest asking on -questions, or in the news group instead? > > We're discussing what's to be changed in -current. This is the correct list > for it. We just have to understand that your favorite editor is not > being discussed. It's the newbie editor that's under discussion, whether > to not to keep it as ee, or change it out for pico. > > There are far fewer newbies (if any) on -current than on -questions or in > the newsgroup. Most people here use vi or emacs or joe, and have done so > for years. I agree that this is the correct list to discuss a change in > -current, but, as I believe Terry meant, it probably isn't the best list > for soliciting names of newbie editors. That's because I _wasn't_ soliciting names for alternative editors, I was proposing replacing ee with pico. I _wasn't_ suggesting replacing vi with pico. I was merely suggesting that ee is not automatically understandable by newbies, while I've already seen that pico is. If I ask a newsgroup, I will get chaos (why don't you use Microsft Word, for gosh sakes). I won't do that. > > I have a feeling that if people in -questions or the newsgroup were asked, > they would probably want pico. > > I've never used `ee' in the install, but if I'm correct, it's used for > post-install configuration (am I right?). Why not give the user a choice > of an editor (from the packages) before it is needed/used for editing > purposes? > > > > I personally don't like the idea of a "newbie" editor. Ever read those > jokes about Linux "sysadmins" and pico? I'm not sure I would like to > hear anything similar about FreeBSD from any quarter. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------