From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 30 09:47:35 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C287344D5AE for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from anny.lostinspace.de (anny.lostinspace.de [IPv6:2001:608:a02::33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CMyCV32nTz3Vgb for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idefix@fechner.net) Received: from server.idefix.lan (253-129-067-156.ip-addr.inexio.net [156.67.129.253]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: idefix@fechner.net) by anny.lostinspace.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1206F64F05; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:47:31 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fechner.net; s=default; t=1604051251; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=05dRCIlK1UeRTX0452ipKZaTu7mZ8UmHs1iMuThGZxs=; b=cRV1B5jpTgtYeLNbewGBShebZAIVjqXuhr97xz1+NZ4y5tB0w06c0ZnpzKga6XptL2224S z94VmqpZHcNAO+qOxxBh8oW7tG+YykCRPC+qTsNQiSf+tF+HMYyPq7aXVN5Xep6Xt75din udK4rU7gff5VsthdgKc8y9yKUYuQofU= Received: from [192.168.0.151] (253-129-067-156.ip-addr.inexio.net [156.67.129.253]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by server.idefix.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B83631D4EC; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:47:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Jack Raats , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <5dc46e8f-d4d6-f53a-5ae4-0cdc3243dbfc@fechner.net> From: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: <8732ada3-264c-4c55-8cba-2d5a697bf226@fechner.net> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:47:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Server: anny.lostinspace.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CMyCV32nTz3Vgb X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=fechner.net header.s=default header.b=cRV1B5jp; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=fechner.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of idefix@fechner.net designates 2001:608:a02::33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=idefix@fechner.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.89 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[fechner.net:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[2001:608:a02::33:from]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[fechner.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.14)[-0.139]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5539, ipnet:2001:608::/32, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[156.67.129.253:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.03)[-1.031]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[fechner.net:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[fechner.net:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.02)[-1.016]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:47:35 -0000 Hi Kevi, Am 30.10.2020 um 00:15 schrieb Kevin Oberman: > Should be no reason to install MOST ports on a minor upgrade like 12.1 > to 12.2. I certainly have not found any need. For major version > upgrades, it is recommended that all ports be reinstalled though only > a minority actually need it. It's just hard to be sure which ones. > > The big exception is ports that provide kernel modules. Most of these > will work after a minor upgrade, but a few are rather touchy. The most > touchy, in my experience, are the drm-kmod ports and, a bit less so, > virtualbox-ose-kmod. I keep full sources on my systems, so I just add > them to PORTS_MODULES in /etc/src.conf so that they are built with my > kernel. > PORTS_MODULES= emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod > PORTS_MODULES+= sysutils/lsof > PORTS_MODULES+= graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod > I realize that this can be a problem for some, but one system of a > given architecture can build a package that can be added to all others. > > A special case is lsof. lsof actually looks through certain kernel > sources to build some things and it is important that you either have > a package built against the sources for the current kernel or that you > build the port against the correct contents of /usr/src/sys/. You > don't need full sources... just the kernel. I don't believe that any > other port has such a requirement except kernel modules. you are fully right and this should be the case. But for me it was not. TLS connection were not working (postfix, dovecot), rspamd crashed (refused to start with bus error). After reinstalling all packages all problems were fixed. Maybe this is related to the fact that the compiler was replaced and the 12.1 binaries do not really work together with the new 12.2 environment. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook