From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 07:37:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AAE106566B; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3248FC0A; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa05.fnfis.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5M7boZk032530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:37:50 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.105] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:37:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <4FE419CD.60708@rdtc.ru> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:37:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <2322BE6D-24A8-4F4A-84B2-4DFE33BCA65B@fisglobal.com> <4FE3EB9D.9070509@fuzzwad.org> <4FE419CD.60708@rdtc.ru> To: Eugene Grosbein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855, 1.0.260, 0.0.0000 definitions=2012-06-21_07:2012-06-22, 2012-06-21, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Devin Teske , Ron McDowell Subject: Re: [CFT] Need Testers for: sysutils/bsdconfig X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:37:52 -0000 On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 22.06.2012 10:50, Ron McDowell =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: >=20 >>> Again, thank you very much for testing this new software. >>> P.S. Due to the large codebase comprising bsdconfig, ample precautions = should be taken. I've not noticed any negative behavior in months of usage,= but just be warned. >>>=20 >>> P.P.S. I don't think on subscribed to -stable@, so include me in your r= eplies. >> I'm one of the coauthors of this code, and I am here on -stable. As=20 >> stated, this port will only run on 9.0-RELEASE and later. >>=20 >> Please give it a try! Thanks! >=20 > I've tried it on installed 9.0-STABLE system. First, thank you for testing! > 1. At the moment, the documentation does not install: >=20 > Could not install package en-freebsd-doc (pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9-stable/Latest/e= n-freebsd-doc.tbz' > by URL) >=20 Ok. Thx. A PR should be filed against bsdinstall (since bsdconfig is simply linking = to "bsdinstall docsinstall" for that menu item and is not actually responsi= ble for the bug). > 2. For system running single gmirror gm0 consisting of 2 whole disks > ada0 and ada1, 'Label allocated disk partitions' offers > only ada0 and ada1 for disklabel editor and not gm0. > And disklabel editor shows empty list of partitions. >=20 Ok, Thx. This too is not part of bsdconfig, but is linked to sade(8). NOTE: "Documentation Installation" and "Disk Partition/Label" are the only = two modules that are pointed to other tools (the former linked to "bsdinsta= ll docsinstall" and the latter linked to "sade"). The goal for this is to replace sade (which is not geom compatible) with a = new tool. This is on the community's to-do list. > 3. Similar for FDISK Partition Editor (ada0/ada1 and not gm0 for choise), > but Partition Editor presents whole disk space as 'unused' >=20 > Note that current SATA disk prices and quality offers no choice for serve= rs > other that some kind of RAID. >=20 Again, this is because sade(8) is not geom compatible. > 4. Networking Devices configuration presents lagg0 device as . > It should provide descriptive string like 'Link aggregation/failover'. >=20 It's on my to-do list to change the way descriptions are calculated. Currently, I've got a static hard-coded list of descriptions. Someone recom= mended that there was a way to get this information from sysctl. > 5. Same for vlan16. For vlan9 is shows right 'IEEE 802.1Q VLAN network in= terface'. > It should work same way for vlan1-vlan4095 interfaces at least. >=20 I'd like to know if the sysctl MIB's for describing network interfaces is r= eliable. Maybe I'll keep the static list as a fallback. But yes, you're abs= olutely right -- I should have supported up to 5 digits even (ifconfig has = internal limits of 16-bit unsigned integer for the interface instance-numbe= r). > 6. Same for ipfw0 pseudo-interface. >=20 Curious what sysctl says about it. > 7. Networking Devices configuration does not allow to configure any inter= face > while there are mounted NFS volumes. Should present a warning only, not d= isallow the operation. Did I completely disallow it? I'll have to re-check -- I thought that I had= made it so that you could view/edit the configuration but that the warning= says that changes will not become effective until you either reboot or vis= it the menu again when no NFS mounts are active. > For example, it should be possible to configure new vlan interface while = NFS mount > uses another clan. >=20 Do you know of a handy way of determining which NFS mount is using which ne= twork interface? And further, is there a handy way of traversing the route = path to determine that one interface isn't required as an intermediary tran= sit device? (meaning: can one truly ever know that making a new configurati= on active on any interface could not potentially drop your entire machine f= rom the net with hung NFS mounts?) Many months of testing in the lab produced no less than 6 edge-cases where = -- if a network link or route is modified when NFS mounts are active -- the= machine can enter an unstable/unusable state. So we decided to err on the side of caution when it came to allowing settin= gs to be made-active when NFS mounts are active. I'm not against improving the code, but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be saf= er to stick to disallowing any/all changes from being made-active (while al= lowing viewing/editing without making-active) when NFS mounts are active. NOTE: There are other safe-guards too. For example, if you're logged in via= SSH and using X11 forwarding while passing the "-X" flag (to use Xdialog(1= )), you are disallowed from making a new hostname active (you can change th= e hostname, but not make it active) because that would cause the very next = iteration of Xdialog(1) to fail due to a surreptitious X authority revocati= on based on the hostname-change in mid-session. > 8. In DNS Nameserver Configuration, it's not clear that one, in fact, > can remove unneeded DNS server through two-step procedure - first try to = edit, > then clear the address. It should be more obvious at first. >=20 Can you have a look at "bsdconfig startup_rcconf" and see if that's a bette= r way to go about the deletion-process? Or perhaps you're just advocating a helpful message in the text above the m= enu list that explains how to delete the item? (least amount of work) > That's enough for this time :-) >=20 Thank you again for testing! --=20 Cheers, Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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